Why do people buy timeshares?

DH & I like to stay at "off the beaten path" smaller resorts or private homes (vrbo or airbnb), so timeshares haven't appealed to us. We have two friends who love their timeshares. Both got for a relatively small amount many years ago and both like to return to the same place every year.
 
I knew someone when I was working in NY who had a few and also loved his... but he did say that most are not worth it..

He had one that was a major holiday week somewhere 'upstate' and it was hard to get a room... said the timeshare had saved him many thousands of dollars as they 'always' went, even before the timeshare...

The others I think were the points based, or the color based where you could trade them for different locations.... said what he got was 'valuable' for trade and could sometimes get two weeks for his one...

I never did discuss numbers with him, but he was in finance so knew how to figure things out...
brother-in-law (finance) bought into one where it could be used anywhere. Except the annual fee was approximately the same amount that it costs to rent a hotel room in the same building. He definitely loses out on the exchange. A few years later he does not even use it but is still stuck. Even if you only get $1 for the obligation it's better than being stuck with the annual fees
 
So that the builders can make more money than any other way of selling the property. Why the original buyers do it is beyond me.
 
So timeshares are the same as annuities:

  • They are not bought, they are sold.
  • They are good for some but not for most.
 
I bought into a timeshare at Disneyworld.

My wife loves going to Walt Disney World so we go twice a year. Been doing it for many years. Always stay at a premium hotel adjacent to the theme park. Spring for the flower & garden show, Fall for the Food & Wine festival.

I did the math ( NPV) of renting rooms, versus assumed capital return of 4%. Ten nights a year, a time share was much cheaper than Disney hotel rates, even with annual maintenance fee. We were using a very savvy travel agent who often got us very good deals & free upgrades.

Did my research, I bought aftermarket, about half the cost of new one from Disney Vacation Club...
Something like this is about the only thing that makes sense to me. DW has a friend that bought a timeshare on Sannibel Island decades ago. They knew they wanted to go every year and do. The costs have worked for them. But the few others I know who bought them have quickly soured and taken a bath unloading them. From their experiences I would assume that if you really find the concept interesting you should force yourself to back off from the marketing pitch and look into the aftermarket options for the area like lwp did.
 
They buy them because the maintenance fees are mostly hidden. And the sales people are usually that good. And people do not know their options.

I used to sell timeshares in college. I had a real estate license and I was the guy who met three couples in a local restaurant and talked them into driving the 3+ hours to see the actual resort.

About 25% of my people would head up there, and about 25% of those would buy. I made ~$250 a week or so, depending on what they bought.

The best part of the job was I got fed a great meal, four times a week. And no dishes to wash.
 
We have friends with timeshares in Tahoe and Hawaii. It is clearly a source of pride for them - not as an investment, but more as a consumption item like a nice car or a luxury watch.

My hunch as well why it works.

"We have a house in Hawaii" sounds cool, especially if you cannot afford an actual house in Hawaii.
 
OK I'M IN FULL CONFESSION.

I love my disney timeshare!!! I will sell the kids before selling the timeshare. I own enough points to go to 7 nights a year. My home resort is Beach Club villas which is one of the best ones on site (lol take that opinion with a grain of salt)

so here goes my reasoning.

#1. I didn't buy the timeshare to trade it. I go to disney at least once a year. if "trading" is an attractive option than time share owner ship is not for you.

#2 If you are a budget travel, timeshare options are not for you. Yes, we are LBYM type of people except for travel. everyone needs a vice. lol, sorry I'm stabbing someone if they suggest I sleep in a motel 8 and credit card points or not, I am not spending 9 hours on a plane to be squashed up like a sardine. translation, I'm dropping 3K on first class.
timeshares usually work out cheaper if you stay in deluxe accomadation.

#3. long term. the cost of the timeshares decreases as years go by. we purchased ours in 2001. we calculated that after the 16th one week trip we would have saved the purchase price. I think next year (I've got 2 trips on tap) we'll be on our 30th visit.

#4 nicer accommodations. We stay in a two bedroom villa. it's spoiled us. maybe because all my sons and my late hubby were over 6ft tall and average 210 lbs. the only thing that would happen if you tried to squeeze us into a hotel room is that a homicide would occur to get the extra space.
 
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I bought into a timeshare at Disneyworld.



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We'll be at the Food & Wine festival next month.

Where are you guys staying (another Disney fanatic so excuse me if that's rude)? lol

I'm going for 4 days October 13-16. staying at Kadandi Village at AKL. it will be my first time so I'm excited. got savanna view also.
 
lol, sorry I'm stabbing someone if they suggest I sleep in a motel 8 and credit card points or not, I am not spending 9 hours on a plane to be squashed up like a sardine. translation, I'm dropping 3K on first class.

On the other hand, (said Captain Hook), there might be those, (Heaven forfend that I be considered among them ;) ), who feel that anyone over the age of nine, (who isn't accompanying someone under the age of nine), visiting Disney is somewhat...ummm....eccentric. :cool:
 
Timeshares have zero appeal for me. However, four years ago we did go to a timeshare presentation to get a hotel night, week of parking while we were on a cruise, and a small gift card. Really when I found the offer, I thought this is too good to be true...get all this for attending a presentation for a couple of hours. I told DH ....hey, if it is too bad we can get in our car and go somewhere else. Well, it worked out fine. We received what was promised and the sales pitch was not extremely high pressure. We were upfront from the beginning that we were only there for the freebies. We were pleasant to the salesman and he was pleasant to us. I did ask what percentage ended up buying and was told 25%. I was interested to see that Sunset reported the same percentage. That is a far higher percentage than I would have guessed. Of course, again, zero appeal to me.
 
Timeshares have zero appeal for me. However, four years ago we did go to a timeshare presentation to get a hotel night, week of parking while we were on a cruise, and a small gift card. Really when I found the offer, I thought this is too good to be true...get all this for attending a presentation for a couple of hours. I told DH ....hey, if it is too bad we can get in our car and go somewhere else. Well, it worked out fine. We received what was promised and the sales pitch was not extremely high pressure. We were upfront from the beginning that we were only there for the freebies. We were pleasant to the salesman and he was pleasant to us. I did ask what percentage ended up buying and was told 25%. I was interested to see that Sunset reported the same percentage. That is a far higher percentage than I would have guessed. Of course, again, zero appeal to me.

It was Senator who said 25%
 
No idea...makes them feel rich and special, perhaps?

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On a separate but related note...the furnishings must get worn out after 52 weeks/year of heavy usage (even possibly abusive? as people are sometimes a bit more careless with things that aren't theirs). Does anyone know how often the interiors and furnishings are redone? How is that handled, how often and how is it paid for? Any idea?

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Makes them feel rich and special? Huh? My guess is it's the only way they can get some piece of recreational property. Many buy multiple weeks. I inherited one from my DW's late husband. He didn't get to travel much so this was his way to enjoy a week a year. I personally don't like the investment at all but I'd stop short of calling him an idiot (rest his soul). We've tried to dump multiple times
 
Years ago We bought a timeshare off market for$1000.We used it every summer for a family vacation when the children were younger . The maintenance was $250 .It was a large resort with a lake and lots of activities for everybody .It was only for 12 years and then we could renew if We wanted . We never renewed so financially it was a good deal for a three bedroom villa.
 
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#4 nicer accommodations. We stay in a two bedroom villa. it's spoiled us. ........

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My experience which is limited, certainly finds that timeshares are much nicer accommodation than a hotel room.
Most have been much larger, with separate bedroom from the living-room area, and I like having a kitchen available, so I don't have to go to a restaurant for breakfast.
 
OK I'M IN FULL CONFESSION.

I love my disney timeshare!!! I will sell the kids before selling the timeshare. I own enough points to go to 7 nights a year. My home resort is Beach Club villas which is one of the best ones on site (lol take that opinion with a grain of salt)

so here goes my reasoning.

#1. I didn't buy the timeshare to trade it. I go to disney at least once a year. if "trading" is an attractive option than time share owner ship is not for you.

#2 If you are a budget travel, timeshare options are not for you. Yes, we are LBYM type of people except for travel. everyone needs a vice. lol, sorry I'm stabbing someone if they suggest I sleep in a motel 8 and credit card points or not, I am not spending 9 hours on a plane to be squashed up like a sardine. translation, I'm dropping 3K on first class.
timeshares usually work out cheaper if you stay in deluxe accomadation.

#3. long term. the cost of the timeshares decreases as years go by. we purchased ours in 2001. we calculated that after the 16th one week trip we would have saved the purchase price. I think next year (I've got 2 trips on tap) we'll be on our 30th visit.

#4 nicer accommodations. We stay in a two bedroom villa. it's spoiled us. maybe because all my sons and my late hubby were over 6ft tall and average 210 lbs. the only thing that would happen if you tried to squeeze us into a hotel room is that a homicide would occur to get the extra space.

You sure your not a New Yorker?! LOL Awesome post, I smiled and laughed at some of the lines. And ty, your timeshare was a good deal for you. P.S. what about the free rainbow cookie?
 
On the other hand, (said Captain Hook), there might be those, (Heaven forfend that I be considered among them ;) ), who feel that anyone over the age of nine, (who isn't accompanying someone under the age of nine), visiting Disney is somewhat...ummm....eccentric. :cool:

To each his own of course, but I'm amazed by the number of adults I've run into who go to Disney World multiple times a year with no kids involved. Has to be at least 10 or more who admitted it in csual conversation. My inlaws had a yearly pass when they lived in Fla.
 
So timeshares are the same as annuities:

  • They are not bought, they are sold.
  • They are good for some but not for most.

I agree with this. I attended 2 different timeshare sales pitches, many years ago. Gotta confess, while there it sure looked attractive and worthwhile (both were Marriott pitches). But once I left and crunched the numbers, the allure faded. As best as I could figure out, financially the break-even point was NO LESS than some 30 years.
So, I knew financially it wasn't a good deal. And the hassle of those annual fees and feeling obligated to use it each year (or additional hassle of trading/selling it in a given year) made saying No quite easy for me.
 
To each his own of course, but I'm amazed by the number of adults I've run into who go to Disney World multiple times a year with no kids involved. Has to be at least 10 or more who admitted it in csual conversation. My inlaws had a yearly pass when they lived in Fla.

In 1966, after driving down the East Coast, through Texas, and down to Manzanillo, Mexico, three of us found ourselves in Anaheim, so dropped into Disneyland for a while......then, in the early 1970s, my first wife & I were around Tampa, had a rental car and sunburns...so drove to Orlando. Stayed for a couple hours....went back to the gulf.

Never returned to either locale...never will.
 
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On the other hand, (said Captain Hook), there might be those, (Heaven forfend that I be considered among them ;) ), who feel that anyone over the age of nine, (who isn't accompanying someone under the age of nine), visiting Disney is somewhat...ummm....eccentric. :cool:
Lol
Dude I left eccentric in the rear view mirror a looong time ago. [emoji2]
What can I say it's my "happy" place
I liken it to motorcycles, you either like it or you don't
 
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So why do people buy timeshares? Is it to be part of the "club"? (HGV salesmen always referred to their product as club membership, not a timeshare). Is it to have access to nicer resorts? To force a reluctant spouse to take time for a yearly vacation?

I don't want to bash anyone who owns a timeshare-- it's your money and you can spend however you wish. But if you own a timeshare, what were the factors that swayed you to buy?

I'm sure, as some have pointed out, the allure is strong of "Oh, we have a place/timeshare in [insert desirable vacation destination]", which offers some form of landed aristocracy feel.

But, on the other hand, the pure concept of a timeshare DOES make sense - have partial ownership locked in, have points you can exchange for other properties so you're not tied down to one place, don't have the insurance/maintenance/upkeep/hassle of having a second (or third) home, have the same place locked in each year so you don't have to go to a different place, you can leave the property to your kids/grandkids in a will.

The part that DOES NOT make sense are the actual costs that are offered by the timeshare company. :)

As with most high pressure sales tactics, they will do a song and a dance, tag team out sales people, circle one point in a red circle on the paper to get you to focus on that, try to compare apples to oranges, use simple math to twist a point around ("you're GOING to spend money on hotel rooms for each vacation, aren't you? Why not buy a timeshare and get a DISCOUNT on those room rates?")...and the sure-fire, age-old sign that you are getting hoodwinked: withhold all other relevant info (like a catalog to see what those 4,000 points will actually buy at other properties) and force you to make a decision on the spur of the moment without having the ability to evaluate it when you aren't being bombarded by these half-truths and apple-to-oranges comparisons.

My (then girlfriend, now wife) and I were in Las Vegas almost 2 years ago and sat in on one at the Polo Club towers for a $100 gift card. The sales guy finally threw in the towel when we both demanded to see the catalog to see what those thousands of points would actually trade for at another property/week. We were told "No, you get that catalog AFTER you buy the timeshare."

Really?

Most people that fall for it aren't sharp enough at math or at comparisons to see the smoke and mirror maneuvers they pull to confuse you, and try to make you see their pig-with-lipstick appear instead as a fashion runway model. Perhaps another sign/symptom of those who are swayed by sound byte headlines of a few words, rather than stopping to actually think about the story and critically evaluate the facts.
 
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I liken it to motorcycles, you either like it or you don't

Motorcycles, (although I don't ride one......I'd've been a statistic long ago), I can understand........but.....;)
 
I also think time shares are one of those things that fall under the category of "other value".
 
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