We may not agree, but that doesn't mean either of us, or anyone else participating in this thread, is not thinking critically. Reasonable people can still disagree.
I apologize. You are correct. I guess I 'lost it' when there was gut-feeling extrapolation going on to 70% range loss instead of pointing to proof/researching/failing-smell-test-even
The 150 mile range I used was not made up, it came from this article
https://www.motor1.com/features/228379/longest-range-evs/
The 60 miles commute was made up to fit the example, but it is definitely not atypical. Many members here reported long commutes as one reason to ER.
So I think people would still need to match their EV choice to their expected commute and emergency needs.
* EV choice means low range (<100); mid range (<200); or high range.
* Emergency needs = how far to drive to get to kids or spouse in an emergency; worse/common case weather (remember many places have growing charging infrastructure).
(example: my kid drives a long/high range vehicle but only was going to charge up to meet his normal driving needs (55 mile each way) but I reminded him to account for emergency runs to hospitials for spouse as an example ... so he bumped up his daily charge by another 10%).
As time goes on and batteries get cheaper we are more getting into the higher range cars. Hence my list:
* 238 mile Chevrolet Bolt
* 258 mile Hyundai Kona EV
* 226 miles 2019 LEAF e+
* any PHEV (
plug-in EV with gas backup)- Honda Clarity; GM Volt; see chart below where there is no battery icon
Your conclusion that the car was not a good fit (in my example) seems appropriate. I've perused many threads here on EVs and don't recall seeing any mention of significant loss of range in very cold weather. In fact, this AAA publication is the first time I've seen it mentioned. It's not clear to this critical thinker just how one should discover that important tidbit during the purchase decision.
That is a pretty fair point. I'm not sure EV threads on *this* site are a great source tho. There are many articles and forums on EV/PHEVs out there if people are genuinely serious about purchasing an EV/PHEV, I would think they would do research at various places. Manufacturers selling in colder climates would be more telling/educational when buying. You could not go to a Tesla store/service center here in Chicago or in Canada and explain your driving without them telling you the range issues as an example. (GM dealerships would push you to a gas car <grin>).
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EV choice means low range (<100); mid range (<200); or high range.
(NOTE that this is missing some of the latest long range crop which I pointed out above)
Pure EVs (Battery only) have battery icons next to them; otherwise they are Plug-in (grid) electric vehicles.