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Originally Posted by ERD50 View Post
This smugness is getting to me. The EV fans are looking for support, but I think they are just creating a backlash with all this diversion and smoke and mirrors. At this point, if some place I frequent started offering free charging for EVs, I'd ask for a top off of my gas tank. Why not? What's the deal? That EV isn't saving the planet, why am I paying for their travel? It's getting aggravating.
-ERD50
This argument is narrow minded. Where does one begin to save the planet? I assume you do not believe carbon emission is, in part, causing global warming. According NASA, we have :
Carbon dioxide (CO2)
Methane
Nitrous oxide
Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)
All accelerated by human activities. Which one should we address? How do even begin to bring this planet to normalcy? At least EV's are a start and an individuals contribution to the bigger issue.
"I assume you do not believe carbon emission is, in part, causing global warming."
You would be wrong about that, and I have no idea why you would assume that. Why
do you assume that?
I accept that carbon emissions are influencing global warming. I also don't think it is all that simple, and that there may well be other stabilizing effects that would provide some negative feedback, and possibly others that would create a runaway positive feedback. It's complicated.
However it really doesn't matter much at all with regard to EVs. EVs really don't reduce carbon emissions much, if at all, compared to a decent hybrid. As I've pointed out umpteen times, EVs are mostly running on fossil fuel, RE is limited, there isn't any 'extra' for the added demand created by a fleet of EVs.
And since decent hybrids don't have the limitations that EVs do for many people who need occasional long trips, and who may not have ready access to chargers, there may be more overall improvement by pushing hybrids for the masses, rather than pushing EVs for a smaller subset of drivers/miles. Here's the chart I've posted umpteen times, the white bar is carbon emissions (I'll skip over methane, Nitrous oxide, and Chlorofluorocarbons for now):
"This argument is narrow minded" Quite the contrary - I'm trying to be open and wide-minded. Instead of focusing on a specific technology (EVs), I'm looking for solutions, wherever they may appear. As I've said before, I am technology agnostic when it comes to things like this - whatever gets the job done. Which may very well mean different tools for different jobs, not a "one size fits all".
And I'd appreciate it if you simply asked a question of me, or challenged the content of my post, rather than reverting to assumptions, and calls of "narrow mindedness". Thanks.
Oh, and for
"How do even begin to bring this planet to normalcy? " - that's a BIG one that I'll save that for later, maybe even a new thread, or one of the old RE threads.
-ERD50