Gearhead Jim
Full time employment: Posting here.
Many of us in the airline industry had pensions "terminated"; we still get something but not as much as originally planned.
My union negotiated a deal whereby when the airline came out of Ch 11, we received stock and notes, converted to cash, to partially compensate for the reduced pension. I received my payments in 2006 and 2007. There was no way to shelter any of that money, it all got taxed as ordinary income (ouch!).
A recent change in the law allows us to take an amount equal to the payments we received, and place it in a Roth IRA as if it were a rollover. We would not get any break on the taxes already paid, and would not be re-filing our previous years returns, just sheltering the future gains from tax. We can not shift money from a regular IRA into the Roth, unless we pay tax on the amount shifted.
So, I can do it. But is it a good idea? My understanding is that the money is required to stay in the Roth for 5 years, and that any money taken out before then is considered a return of gains (pay the tax) and not a return of the already-taxed principal.
I'm thinking that if I don't need the money for those 5 years, this is a worthwhile deal. If I will need to take money out of my regular IRA instead of using the money that i would convert to Roth, it's a marginally useful deal once we get beyond the 5 years.
Suggestions and opinions?
My union negotiated a deal whereby when the airline came out of Ch 11, we received stock and notes, converted to cash, to partially compensate for the reduced pension. I received my payments in 2006 and 2007. There was no way to shelter any of that money, it all got taxed as ordinary income (ouch!).
A recent change in the law allows us to take an amount equal to the payments we received, and place it in a Roth IRA as if it were a rollover. We would not get any break on the taxes already paid, and would not be re-filing our previous years returns, just sheltering the future gains from tax. We can not shift money from a regular IRA into the Roth, unless we pay tax on the amount shifted.
So, I can do it. But is it a good idea? My understanding is that the money is required to stay in the Roth for 5 years, and that any money taken out before then is considered a return of gains (pay the tax) and not a return of the already-taxed principal.
I'm thinking that if I don't need the money for those 5 years, this is a worthwhile deal. If I will need to take money out of my regular IRA instead of using the money that i would convert to Roth, it's a marginally useful deal once we get beyond the 5 years.
Suggestions and opinions?