BizzyC
Dryer sheet aficionado
Hi all,
Long time lurker, almost never poster.
I’m looking for advice and thoughts on the weird financial hand I’ve been dealt. It’s not a bad hand, just, unusual I think. The first thing I need to get out on the table is that knowledge of tax rules is an absolute Achilles tendon for me. Several decades ago I made an inadvertent error when filing my taxes, got audited, fined, etc., and I’ve been terrified of taxes ever since. Have either paid to have them done or my spouse did them every year since then, so in your responses please assume you’re talking to a tax moron.
Anyhoo, here’s where I’m at. I divorced in May of this year. I am retired, and have been since 2014. I just turned 55.
I own a house. Zillow thinks the house is worth $3.1M. I owe $662k on the mortgage. My mortgage rate is 3.5%. I have a renter who pays me $2800/mo.
I have two 401k accounts that have a total of ~$1.3M in them, and a brand new Roth with ~ $20,000 in it. I will pay the taxes on the $20k Roth conversion out of pocket.
I have ~$450k liquid-ish assets (bank accounts, random stock in an Etrade account).
I have an equalizing payment due from the divorce of $470k. When that happens, my liquid-ish assets are going to be ~$920k. So one way to look at this is, this is awesome, I have lot of liquid cash during this period of economic uncertainty so good security. Another way to look at this is, this is terrible, because the kinds of low risk investments (FDIC insured) I’d like to find for that money are only offering very low interest rates. As of this writing, the equalizing payment is overdue, so right now, I’m actually getting 10% interest paid monthly. I have no control over if/when this changes and I get the full payment, but my guess is it will probably change within a few months.
Although it’s a little early on, I’ve been keeping very detailed records of my spending, and I think my yearly outflow is about $110k. (That figure does not iaccount for the rent I collect. I just want a little buffer in case the rent money goes away, or if I messed up accounting for something.) So in my mind, I think of my liquid-ish assets as covering my spending for about 10 yrs. It will be critical that I manage the money so that I can cover my spending for at least 4.5 years when I will be 59.5 and can tap my 401ks. I think of the equity in the house as eventual cash reserves, because this house would be too much for me to keep up with when I get older.
So here are some specific questions I have for the group.
Any way you slice it, I’m on ACA for health insurance next year. The question is whether it makes more sense for me to keep my Roth conversions low enough to qualify for the subsidy, or whether I’d be better served to forego the subsidy and convert to the top of the 22% or 24% tax bracket. The specifics for the ACA for next year are: Either $939/mo without the subsidy, or $530/mo with the subsidy. If I take the subsidy, it saves me $409/mo == $4908/yr. If I forego the subsidy, and convert to the top of the 24% bracket (single) of $85,526, my wild a$$ guess at how much I could convert is:
$85,526 = $36,000(rental income) + $18,400(2% return on invested $920k) + Roth conversion amount – $24,000(house interest paid)-$12,400(personal deduct)
Am I even figuring that out right?
Do you see other ways to play this hand that I’m not thinking of? I would love to refinance to a lower rate, but the banks are kind of idiots as soon as they hear “not working”. They refuse to consider the rent income because it is stemming from renting a room in my personal residence as opposed to being a separate rental property. Does anyone know, if I wait until I get the equalizing payment and literally have more than the outstanding mortgage amount sitting in my bank accounts, would that get them to budge on refinancing?
Any advice appreciated.
Long time lurker, almost never poster.
I’m looking for advice and thoughts on the weird financial hand I’ve been dealt. It’s not a bad hand, just, unusual I think. The first thing I need to get out on the table is that knowledge of tax rules is an absolute Achilles tendon for me. Several decades ago I made an inadvertent error when filing my taxes, got audited, fined, etc., and I’ve been terrified of taxes ever since. Have either paid to have them done or my spouse did them every year since then, so in your responses please assume you’re talking to a tax moron.
Anyhoo, here’s where I’m at. I divorced in May of this year. I am retired, and have been since 2014. I just turned 55.
I own a house. Zillow thinks the house is worth $3.1M. I owe $662k on the mortgage. My mortgage rate is 3.5%. I have a renter who pays me $2800/mo.
I have two 401k accounts that have a total of ~$1.3M in them, and a brand new Roth with ~ $20,000 in it. I will pay the taxes on the $20k Roth conversion out of pocket.
I have ~$450k liquid-ish assets (bank accounts, random stock in an Etrade account).
I have an equalizing payment due from the divorce of $470k. When that happens, my liquid-ish assets are going to be ~$920k. So one way to look at this is, this is awesome, I have lot of liquid cash during this period of economic uncertainty so good security. Another way to look at this is, this is terrible, because the kinds of low risk investments (FDIC insured) I’d like to find for that money are only offering very low interest rates. As of this writing, the equalizing payment is overdue, so right now, I’m actually getting 10% interest paid monthly. I have no control over if/when this changes and I get the full payment, but my guess is it will probably change within a few months.
Although it’s a little early on, I’ve been keeping very detailed records of my spending, and I think my yearly outflow is about $110k. (That figure does not iaccount for the rent I collect. I just want a little buffer in case the rent money goes away, or if I messed up accounting for something.) So in my mind, I think of my liquid-ish assets as covering my spending for about 10 yrs. It will be critical that I manage the money so that I can cover my spending for at least 4.5 years when I will be 59.5 and can tap my 401ks. I think of the equity in the house as eventual cash reserves, because this house would be too much for me to keep up with when I get older.
So here are some specific questions I have for the group.
Any way you slice it, I’m on ACA for health insurance next year. The question is whether it makes more sense for me to keep my Roth conversions low enough to qualify for the subsidy, or whether I’d be better served to forego the subsidy and convert to the top of the 22% or 24% tax bracket. The specifics for the ACA for next year are: Either $939/mo without the subsidy, or $530/mo with the subsidy. If I take the subsidy, it saves me $409/mo == $4908/yr. If I forego the subsidy, and convert to the top of the 24% bracket (single) of $85,526, my wild a$$ guess at how much I could convert is:
$85,526 = $36,000(rental income) + $18,400(2% return on invested $920k) + Roth conversion amount – $24,000(house interest paid)-$12,400(personal deduct)
Am I even figuring that out right?
Do you see other ways to play this hand that I’m not thinking of? I would love to refinance to a lower rate, but the banks are kind of idiots as soon as they hear “not working”. They refuse to consider the rent income because it is stemming from renting a room in my personal residence as opposed to being a separate rental property. Does anyone know, if I wait until I get the equalizing payment and literally have more than the outstanding mortgage amount sitting in my bank accounts, would that get them to budge on refinancing?
Any advice appreciated.