Hi all,
John Bogle states in his book Common Sense on Mutual Funds, that if you are going to attempt to select actively managed funds, "the surest route to top-quartile returns is bottom-quartile expenses". He states that the lowest-cost quartile for LARGE CAP STOCK FUNDS would have expense ratios of 0.5% maximum.
However, I do not see in his book any lowest-cost quartile expense ratio numbers for Mid-Cap, Small-Cap, or Foreign stock funds. Anybody know where I can find this info, or do you have any rules of thumb for these asset classes that you could share?
I have about 45 investment choices in my 401(k) (large company with 80,000 employees worldwide) and I'm trying to come up with a short list of the best prospects for a long-term (30 year) plan.
If anybody is interested, heres a list of most of the fund expense ratios I have in my plan (thought it might be useful for comparison to your own plan, plus I'm home sick and have nothing better to do!):
Large Cap Growth
3 actively managed funds, 0.63%, 1.24%, 0.22%
Large Cap Blend
3 actively managed funds, 0.85, 0.70, 0.31
2 index funds, 0.05, 0.05
Large Cap Value
3 actively managed funds, 0.72, 0.68, 0.24
Mid-Cap Growth
2 actively managed funds, 0.99, 1.05
Mid-Cap Blend
2 actively managed funds, 0.70, 0.92
Mid-Cap Value
1 actively managed funds, 0.69
Small-Cap Growth
2 actively managed funds, 1.04, 1.40
Small-Cap Blend
2 actively managed funds, 0.98, 0.92
Small-Cap Value
1 actively managed funds, 1.05
World
1 actively managed funds, 1.18
Foreign
1 index funds, 0.20
5 actively managed funds, 0.93, 0.70, 0.93, 0.84, 0.82
Specialty
actively managed healthcare fund, 0.70
actively managed Real Estate Security fund, 0.76
actively managed technology fund, 0.81
Asset Allocation
actively managed Fidelity Freedom fund, 0.75
Balanced
3 actively managed funds, 0.64, 0.63, 0.86
Bond/Managed Income - Intermediate Term
1 index funds, 0.10
1 actively managed funds, 0.43
Bond/Managed Income - Stable Value
1 actively managed funds, 0.24
Bond/Managed Income - International
1 actively managed funds, 0.80
Short-Term Investments
1 actively managed funds, 0.23
John Bogle states in his book Common Sense on Mutual Funds, that if you are going to attempt to select actively managed funds, "the surest route to top-quartile returns is bottom-quartile expenses". He states that the lowest-cost quartile for LARGE CAP STOCK FUNDS would have expense ratios of 0.5% maximum.
However, I do not see in his book any lowest-cost quartile expense ratio numbers for Mid-Cap, Small-Cap, or Foreign stock funds. Anybody know where I can find this info, or do you have any rules of thumb for these asset classes that you could share?
I have about 45 investment choices in my 401(k) (large company with 80,000 employees worldwide) and I'm trying to come up with a short list of the best prospects for a long-term (30 year) plan.
If anybody is interested, heres a list of most of the fund expense ratios I have in my plan (thought it might be useful for comparison to your own plan, plus I'm home sick and have nothing better to do!):
Large Cap Growth
3 actively managed funds, 0.63%, 1.24%, 0.22%
Large Cap Blend
3 actively managed funds, 0.85, 0.70, 0.31
2 index funds, 0.05, 0.05
Large Cap Value
3 actively managed funds, 0.72, 0.68, 0.24
Mid-Cap Growth
2 actively managed funds, 0.99, 1.05
Mid-Cap Blend
2 actively managed funds, 0.70, 0.92
Mid-Cap Value
1 actively managed funds, 0.69
Small-Cap Growth
2 actively managed funds, 1.04, 1.40
Small-Cap Blend
2 actively managed funds, 0.98, 0.92
Small-Cap Value
1 actively managed funds, 1.05
World
1 actively managed funds, 1.18
Foreign
1 index funds, 0.20
5 actively managed funds, 0.93, 0.70, 0.93, 0.84, 0.82
Specialty
actively managed healthcare fund, 0.70
actively managed Real Estate Security fund, 0.76
actively managed technology fund, 0.81
Asset Allocation
actively managed Fidelity Freedom fund, 0.75
Balanced
3 actively managed funds, 0.64, 0.63, 0.86
Bond/Managed Income - Intermediate Term
1 index funds, 0.10
1 actively managed funds, 0.43
Bond/Managed Income - Stable Value
1 actively managed funds, 0.24
Bond/Managed Income - International
1 actively managed funds, 0.80
Short-Term Investments
1 actively managed funds, 0.23