Thank you, SecondCor521.
I don't have online access and it is not a real "broker" for common people right? I think Northern Trust is like a bank? I had asked about signing for access before and they wanted me to deal with an insurance agent and all sorts of crap I did not want to do so not sure it is really the best choice to get it now.
But I do plan to call them and will ask more questions. I have only had NT 1.5 years but the statements are sort of a shadow of their former selves so I do not expect to get a ton of information.
Northern Trust is a bank. But they have an affiliate, Northern Trust Securities, which is a real stock broker for people, common or otherwise:
https://www.northerntrust.com/united-states/what-we-do/wealth-management/brokerage-services
Generally speaking, banks can't provide investment services. This is due to an old law. People using banks want to know their money is 100% safe; investments sometimes lose value. So the government said banks can't do investments.
If you don't like NT, you can probably move your investments (without selling them) to Vanguard, Fidelity, or Schwab and might be much happier long term.
So do you somehow think I can use a method other than average cost (their default) if I lack the records to "prove" I got x shares on y date in 1992 at z price? I doubt very much they have that information to give me. I am not sure how many admins we had prior to this but I think more than 1.
I will need the money to live on so keeping them for heirs is a no go (though I had planned to keep them longer then next year) there are some other long winded reasons why selling some shares after Jan 1 2024 might be the way to go.
The IRS says (essentially) you have to identify the shares that you are selling to the broker before you sell.
Yes, you can use a cost basis method other than average cost. Most brokers support different cost basis methods. If you don't pick, they'll default to something. It sounds like NT's might be average cost basis. You should pick a method before you sell.
The cost basis method you choose (again, hopefully before selling) will then determine which shares will be sold when you do go to sell. For example, if the method is FIFO and you sell, the first shares will be sold. If the method is LIFO and you sell, then the last shares will be sold.
Once you sell, you need to report the correct basis for whatever shares are sold (first, last, January 2004 shares, whatever). This will be whatever you paid for those shares. It's ideal if the broker tracks it for you properly, but if not, then as mentioned you can use whatever documentation you have as long as it's honest and as accurate as you can be, and as long as you are logically consistent. For example, you *could not* sell your covered shares and use your non-covered share basis, and you *could not* sell more than the number of uncovered shares you own and use the uncovered share price for all of them.
Average cost method is a bit weird, though. If you start selling average cost, then they will average the cost of all your shares (total paid $ / total shares). So you might sell 10 of the oldest shares that you actually paid $30 for, so your actual basis is $300. But if your average purchase price is $45 per share and you sell 10 of those oldest shares and are using average cost basis, then you would report a basis of $450. Because this distorts things on the first sale (the basis is $150 too high), it used to be that you had to use average cost for the entire investment once you start. It appears from the IRS rules that this is no longer the case, but I honestly don't know how that works. (And I don't care - I use specific ID as a cost basis method on everything.)