Heck, we're still paying for the Spanish-American war...Ed_The_Gypsy said:They were introduced to pay for the Viet Nam War (interesting, no?).
Will Work 4 Beer said:- THERE'S NO FREE LUNCH.
Martha said:I feel the same way about the estate tax. The trillions of dollars raised by that tax have to come from somewhere. So, pay the tax now or wait until you die?
Texas Proud said:The problem with the estate taxes (besides the double taxation most people hate) is that it if a very inefficient tax.. it almost costs as much to 'collect' as it brings in...
Remember, the tax is only paid by high net worth people and they hire good tax accountants and attorneys that will fight to pay the least amount.. so the IRS has to hire good people to challenge them etc. etc... You can get more money with less cost if you tax something else.
((^+^)) SG said:But even if it were true, notice that items 4a, 4b, and 4c all transfer the tax burden away from salary taxes to consumption taxes. This is not a smart thing for retirees to favor.
Patrick said:. At least with the sales tax I'll get to decide when/if I'm going to pay it.
retire@40 said:I think you are making up the facts and then you are believing them.
Patrick said:: What is the budget for the IRS?
You apparently are not very familiar with the graduated income tax system and basic deductions. Very few retirees end up paying as much tax after retirement as they did before. This is common knowledge and discussed in most retirement planning articles and books. It has been discussed on this board a number of times. In fact, many retirees on this board have commented on what a pleasant surprise their reduced income tax bill in retirement was. Some have even mentioned that they have been able to avoid all income tax after retirement. There may be some exceptions, but I don't know of any personally.Patrick said:: Really? Well my pension is all before-tax $$, so I would have to pay income tax on that. Ditto with my Deferred Comp $$. In fact, I can't think of any income I'll have when retired that won't be subject to the income tax under the current system.
Your control of when to pay sales tax does not seem much improved over your control of when to pay income tax. If you don't buy anything, you can avoid sales tax. If you don't earn anything you can avoid income tax. Neither option is reasonable.Patrick said:At least with the sales tax I'll get to decide when/if I'm going to pay it.
But this is a federal tax, not a state tax. There is no federal sales tax system. And looking at the budget of the IRS without looking at the income is nonsensical. What is the ratio of taxes collected to cost?Patrick said:And the system is already in place in most states to collect sales taxes. What is the budget for the IRS?
((^+^)) SG said:You apparently are not very familiar with the graduated income tax system and basic deductions. Very few retirees end up paying as much tax after retirement as they did before. This is common knowledge and discussed in most retirement planning articles and books. It has been discussed on this board a number of times. In fact, many retirees on this board have commented on what a pleasant surprise their reduced income tax bill in retirement was. Some have even mentioned that they have been able to avoid all income tax after retirement. There may be some exceptions, but I don't know of any personally.
Your control of when to pay sales tax does not seem much improved over your control of when to pay income tax. If you don't buy anything, you can avoid sales tax. If you don't earn anything you can avoid income tax. Neither option is reasonable.
But this is a federal tax, not a state tax. There is no federal sales tax system.
Patrick said:Simply piggyback on the current state systems. The same people collect the cash and send it to the Feds. Got to be cheaper than the IRS!
retire@40 said:I don't believe the federal government can force the states to collect federal taxes.
retire@40 said:I don't believe the federal government can force the states to collect federal taxes.
8.00 . Low-Flow Restrictions.
(a) Eel River, Mad River, Mattole River, Redwood Creek, Smith River and Van Duzen River.
Stream closures: Special Low Flow Conditions.
From October 1 through January 31, any of the stream reaches listed in subsection (1) through (7) below
shall be closed to all angling on Tuesday and Wednesday when the department determines that the flow
on the previous Monday at any of the designated gauging stations is less than the minimum flows set
forth in subsections (1) through (7); any of the stream reaches listed in subsections (1) through (7) below
shall be closed to all angling on Thursday and Friday when the department determines that the flow on the
previous Wednesday at any of the designated gauging stations is less than the minimum flows set forth
in subsections (1) though (7); any of the stream reaches listed in subsections (1) through (7) below shall
be closed to all angling from Saturday through Monday when the department determines that the flow on
the previous Friday at any of the designated gauging stations is less than the minimum flows set forth in
subsections (1) through (7). Notwithstanding this provision, the department may close or keep a stream
reach closed to fishing when the minimum flow is exceeded on the scheduled flow determination day if
the department is reasonably assured that the stream flow is likely to decrease below the minimum flow
as specified in subsections (a)(1)-(7) of Section 8.00 before the next flow-determination date. In addition,
the department may reopen a stream at any time during a closed period if the minimum flow as specified
in subsections (a)(1)-(7) of Section 8.00 is exceeded and the department is reasonably assured that it will
remain above the minimum flow until the next scheduled Monday, Wednesday, or Friday flow determination.
The department shall make information available to the public by a telephone recorded message updated,
as necessary, no later than 1:00 p.m. each Monday, Wednesday, and Friday as to whether any stream will
be open or closed to fishing. It shall be the responsibility of the angler to use the telephone number
designated in the sport fishing regulations booklet to obtain information on the status of any stream.