I recently transferred an IRA from USAA to Vanguard (represents ~10% total portfolio). The rest of my assets are with Schwab. I kind of like having my assets at two different places, but I certainly like working with Schwab better.
I have issues with Vanguard's web interface, specifically in regards to selling non-Vanguard funds via their FundAcess.
I always cringe and second guess my self when I see the confirmation for a sell order:
- Amount: $xxx
- Redemption fee: See prospectus
- Redemption fee VBS: VBS NTF redemption fee: See commission and fee schedules
The VBS (Vanguard Brokerage Service) redemption fee is a fee Vanguard has on all non Vanguard NTF funds to discourage short term trading. Just looked and it is charged on shares held less than 60 days (but I'm sure it was 6 months the last time I looked). The generic message makes me nervous and I look up the rules on every trade and double check everything. The rules specifically say funds transferred in from another brokerage firm are not held to the 60 days. So the first trade I did I called to verify - everything looked good. I did the trade and everything went fine. Latter I did another trade and it went well too. Then on my third trade, I sold $500 worth of a fund and got hit with that VBS fee for $50.
At Schwab it is very clear when I make a transaction - Schwab's site either tells me there are no fees or there are. And if there are fees they tell me what they are for. Schwab also has fees to discourage short term trading - but they let me know if they apply to the transactions before I confirm them.
I will say that Vanguard did resolve the issue and refunded the fee (took a few days). When I called, the person I talked to was nice but completely confused about the rules for when the VBS fee applies. They did talk to someone else and confirmed I should not have had the fee. But after reading the current document I found, I may have actually owed the fee - but this document is different than the documents I've found before regarding that fee, I think they have changed. At any rate - it is very confusing.
I just want to know if their system thinks there is going to be a fee before I submit a transaction. I don't want the generic ... there might be a fee for this transaction, why don't you go figure it out - here is a link to the prospectus. But if you want to know if there is a VBS fee, you're going to have to work a little harder and either search the web site or call us and hope you got the right intel.
If their computer system can figure the fees when it performs the transaction, certainly it can figure it out and let me know before I confirm the transaction.