dixonge
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
An interesting analysis about trends in energy investments...
Wind and Solar Are Crushing Fossil Fuels - Bloomberg
Wind and Solar Are Crushing Fossil Fuels - Bloomberg
Then no need for subsidies.
Shall we say the article leans just a "wee" bit to the left?
Referring to the OP's original article.
Take away the subsidies and it's an entirely different story. Here's another perspective on the real costs up here in Canada:
Ontario Wind Turbines | Ontario has the most expensive electricity in North America
Wow. [mod edit] Since you missed it, here's the subtitle:
Record clean energy investment outpaces gas and coal 2 to 1
The article isn't about energy output or production or market share. Just investment.
Why am I even wasting pixels here? *headdesk*
It's funny how attached people are to coal. It's like getting emotional about bauxite or something.
He responded that now was the time to buy as certain federal and state subsidies might not be renewed. I responded asking that if that was the case did it mean that the solar installation was nowhere near economically viable without taxpayer subsidies.... I never received a response on that one.
Not aware oil (or coal or NG) is getting paid to produce energy. Correct me. please.Doesn't oil still get subsidies?
Or very cheap leases on federal lands and territory off the coasts?
Wow. [mod edit] Since you missed it, here's the subtitle:
Record clean energy investment outpaces gas and coal 2 to 1
The article isn't about energy output or production or market share. Just investment.
Why am I even wasting pixels here? *headdesk*
Wow. [mod edit] Since you missed it, here's the subtitle:
Record clean energy investment outpaces gas and coal 2 to 1
The article isn't about energy output or production or market share. Just investment.
Why am I even wasting pixels here? *headdesk*
Adding wind/solar is a positive in many ways, but it could be debated as to whether it makes economic sense to push it now, or wait for it to get better or (lots of questions if you think about it).
-ERD50
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... w/o storage, the intermittent nature takes a toll when you start getting to 10, 20, maybe 30% of average production being wind/solar? To have that much average, you end with peaks that probably can't be absorbed, so can't be sold. So the price starts going up again (to recoup the investment with less sales). And storage costs $ and wastes some of the energy.
That doesn't mean wind/solar aren't viable, it's just an issue when you start hitting higher average rates.
I saw an article on this just today, pretty good, IMO....hmmmm, not finding the link offhand, will try later.
-ERD50
Thanks to a little-discussed phenomenon known as "value deflation," the electricity generated by solar panels gets less and less valuable as more panels come online. ...
The trouble comes when you keep adding more and more solar panels to a given grid. As that happens, the wholesale price of electricity keeps falling during sunny hours. And each additional solar panel becomes that much less economically valuable.