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Old 04-07-2018, 09:05 AM   #121
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I think a lawyer would get 20% of whatever my settlement is. I wouldn't pay up front and they wouldn't take the case if they didn't think I would get a decent amount of money.
They typically don't take any of your settlement unless you win. In cases I've seen there was an initial settlement and that's all the attorneys can hit.

Its worth checking into.
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:06 AM   #122
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Aaron, I imagine you have studied this document end-to-end by now:

https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/public...c/WKC-7580.htm
Thanks for that link. Most of that was stuff I have been over before but I learned more about vocational rehab than I had before. Very helpful.
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aaron, I have worked in this area. You are correct that you can not keep collecting WC forever. They will offer you either of these options: take a buy out or retraining. The retraining is anywhere from 9 months to a max of 2 years based on certain criteria. They keep paying you while you retrain. Often the private Voc Rehab counselors just want to put you in a vocational plan so they can collect their $ every month. I have seen people placed in programs that won't lead to jobs, etc. The people that take buyouts run out of $ quick once they pay off past due bills etc and then some of them come to a state agency funded mainly by the feds to help people with disabilities return to work. At this point you have a better chance of getting a counselor that cares and wants to hel you find a appropriate vocational goal.
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Old 04-09-2018, 07:11 AM   #124
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aaron, I have worked in this area. You are correct that you can not keep collecting WC forever. They will offer you either of these options: take a buy out or retraining. The retraining is anywhere from 9 months to a max of 2 years based on certain criteria. They keep paying you while you retrain. Often the private Voc Rehab counselors just want to put you in a vocational plan so they can collect their $ every month. I have seen people placed in programs that won't lead to jobs, etc. The people that take buyouts run out of $ quick once they pay off past due bills etc and then some of them come to a state agency funded mainly by the feds to help people with disabilities return to work. At this point you have a better chance of getting a counselor that cares and wants to hel you find a appropriate vocational goal.
If I get vocational training in the form of a 2 year associates degree I suppose that means the case stays open and my settlement gets postponed until all that is over. Maybe I should just take the settlement including the buyout for vocational training and then look elsewhere for assistance getting a job in an office setting.
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aaron take your time to decide about schooling and settlements. If you want to drill down about the schooling why don't you start another thread about 2 year degrees, vocational office training and jobs.

I'm sure people would be glad to share information with you. For example something like training for medical transcriptions.. a lot of those job are done from home.
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Old 04-09-2018, 07:20 AM   #126
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aaron take your time to decide about schooling and settlements. If you want to drill down about the schooling why don't you start another thread about 2 year degrees, vocational office training and jobs.

I'm sure people would be glad to share information with you. For example something like training for medical transcriptions.. a lot of those job are done from home.
That's a good idea but i'll wait until I get closer to that step. Right now I don't even know why my hip is still hurting. If they don't find anything on the MRI they may just send me back to myvery physically demanding job for me to suffer or quit.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:22 AM   #127
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That's a good idea but i'll wait until I get closer to that step. Right now I don't even know why my hip is still hurting. If they don't find anything on the MRI they may just send me back to myvery physically demanding job for me to suffer or quit.
Let hope that you have better results then that. I can feel your frustration and I hope you get the best result possible.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:47 AM   #128
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Aaron, you will either get a buy out or they will pay you while you get retrained. You do not get both. Also do you know that you qualify for 2 years of retraining? The time period allowed varies by a number of factors.
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Aaron, you will either get a buy out or they will pay you while you get retrained. You do not get both. Also do you know that you qualify for 2 years of retraining? The time period allowed varies by a number of factors.
I will get a disability rating and a payout based on that. I would assume any vocational training would be seperate.

As far as time of training, they are required to help me get a job that pays at least 90% of what I ws making at the time of the accident. I will be unlikey to be able to make that in an office without an associates degree.

Once my employer is informed that I am unable to return to my physical labor job they have 60 days to find me an office type job otherwise WC is required to help me get a job paying at least 90% of what I was making at the time of the accident.
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I mostly worked as a vocational expert in public rehab but did some consulting in WC after first retiring 6 years ago. I can't remember for sure if people got a disability rating settlement on top of either a buyout or retraining. While they are required to help you find a job making 90% of what you were making I will tell you what frequently really happens. They send you to a private technical school because often the amount of time you are allowed does not cover public colleges. Then once completed they pair you with a job development specialist that is supposed to help you do your resume and find work, etc. The counselor keeps getting paid and the insurance company wants your case closed and will likely only rehire the counselor in the future if they help them accomplish their goal. Business in WC is very competitive and the counselor does not work for you but for the insurance company.They will end up closing your case and not paying anymore whether or not you have a job paying 90% of your past wage. How are they able to do this? I don't know because I did not like private rehab and didn't stay in it long enough to know.
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I mostly worked as a vocational expert in public rehab but did some consulting in WC after first retiring 6 years ago. I can't remember for sure if people got a disability rating settlement on top of either a buyout or retraining. While they are required to help you find a job making 90% of what you were making I will tell you what frequently really happens. They send you to a private technical school because often the amount of time you are allowed does not cover public colleges. Then once completed they pair you with a job development specialist that is supposed to help you do your resume and find work, etc. The counselor keeps getting paid and the insurance company wants your case closed and will likely only rehire the counselor in the future if they help them accomplish their goal. Business in WC is very competitive and the counselor does not work for you but for the insurance company.They will end up closing your case and not paying anymore whether or not you have a job paying 90% of your past wage. How are they able to do this? I don't know because I did not like private rehab and didn't stay in it long enough to know.
Thanks for the info. I will likely have to end up getting an attorney at some point to make sure WC isn't taking advantage of me.
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Yes that is a very good idea. I am hoping that you are still healing and things will get better.
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I got the results back from the MRI and it showed the worst case scenerio. Unfortunately I have wide spread avascular necrosis and need a total hip replacement on May 21st. He is planning an anterior approach which should reduce recovery time to around 3 months. It's going to be a major bummer to go thru a third surgery and a few more months of physical therapy but it should result in finally being pain free or at least less pain than I have had for the past year.
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Oh boy! My best wishes for the surgery bringing about the result that everybody hopes for.
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wow, Aaron, you have been through the wringer this year! Best wishes for your recovery.
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So sorry to hear this, aaron. Hope the surgery and recovery go well and you are free from pain.
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Aaron, I'm so sorry, that is awful to have to go through. No wonder you were in so much pain. Hoping so much for a good result from this hip replacement, and to hear from you that the pain is gone and you are in good health.
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Sorry your having to go through this. Hopefully it becomes a positive for you.
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Thank you for the update Aaron.

Like the others I'm wishing you well. You've been thru so much, bless your heart...hopefully the surgery will give you some relief.
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