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Old 06-11-2008, 07:20 PM   #61
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:21 PM   #62
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Consider wearing a seatbelt as part of your grooming ritual and at least a small effort to present yourself positively to the opposite sex.
Are human sperm carriers really so desperate that they'd buckle up just to make themselves more attractive to human egg carriers? :confused: :confused:
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Are human sperm carriers really so desperate that they'd buckle up just to make themselves more attractive to human egg carriers? :confused: :confused:
ok, just aside from anything else, let me be the first to say, "Well duh"!
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:28 PM   #64
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Are human sperm carriers really so desperate that they'd buckle up just to make themselves more attractive to human egg carriers? :confused: :confused:
I'd tie it in a bow if that'd help.
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I think the "low priority in the ER" part is, as pointed out, draconian and unfair. But, I would support "you must have checked off the organ donation box on your license."

Then sure, pay some extra insurance, and ride that motorcycle without the helmet ... you get some fun, and society gains some donors. what's not to like?

I suspect it is the human sperm carriers who would tend towards this infelcitous behavior, reducing the pool of available carriers competing for human egg carriers.

.... hmmmm - oh, yeah, Darwin was that guy's name....

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I think the "low priority in the ER" part is, as pointed out, draconian and unfair. But, I would support "you must have checked off the organ donation box on your license."

Then sure, pay some extra insurance, and ride that motorcycle without the helmet ... you get some fun, and society gains some donors. what's not to like?

I suspect it is the human sperm carriers who would tend towards this infelcitous behavior, reducing the pool of available carriers competing for human egg carriers.

.... hmmmm - oh, yeah, Darwin was that guy's name....

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It's as prevalent from one gender to the other.

One thing about motorcycle helmet laws that make no sense is they don't define the kind of helmet you should be wearing. I mean, a seatbelt is a seatbelt, but I can think of four different kinds of helmets off the top of my head, all DOT approved. Only one's really good, but no one's pushing for it, they're just happy to have "a helmet" law. Ignorance is bliss, I guess. Then again, injuries prevented from wearing a helmet is dwarfed by injuries prevented by wearing actual protective gear, yet try to find a law against going out in shorts and sandals instead of riding pants and boots.
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RetiredGypsy wrote: yet try to find a law against going out in shorts and sandals instead of riding pants and boots.


True! I have a friend who was a nurse for many years. The first signs of spring: Broken wrists from rollerbladers, and road-rash from the motorcyclists.

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An update:

I know this is a controversial issue. So I'll just provide an update sans comments.

I decided to pay $75 to a local lawyer to take care of the ticket. There was no guarantee whatsoever from him. He would not give me any details on how he plan to "save" me. But he knew that I have to appear in court, and that based on past cases, I have a 75% plus chance of getting the ticket dismissed.

Well, my case came up two weeks ago, and was dismissed because the ticketing officer was not present. There were many people there with seatbelt tickets, most were dismissed. The few that were not were offered probation or reduced fines or probation or traffic school.

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I know of a lawyer that has used this trick. The lawyer goes in and ask for a different time to appear preferably short notice. The cop does not get notified, or does not show, ticket dismissed.
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Congratulations Sam. You were fortunate to get good results for your $75.
Hundreds of folks in this neck of the woods had an entirely different outcome.

"Attorney Diana Minella was supposed to take care of her clients' traffic tickets. Instead, she left hundreds of motorists stranded and her owing more than $600,000 in fees those clients paid her."

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I know of a lawyer that has used this trick. The lawyer goes in and ask for a different time to appear preferably short notice. The cop does not get notified, or does not show, ticket dismissed.
All traffic court attorneys know this one, and a few others. Of course, you can do it as well, and save yourself $75.

The question to Sam is - do you wear your seat belt now? Or, do you at least pay attention to the publicized crackdowns? Here's the newest one:
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I think not wearing a seat belt is just stupid. However, I am strongly opposed to the mandatory seat belt law, as I have stated elsewhere on here. I don't think you will find many pilots that don't wear a seat belt. Now I don't always wear a helmet on my scooter or bike.

The other on I heard of is to pay the $10 for a new license plate every 6 months or so to make it more difficult to figure out a repeat offender for parking tickets. Not sure how that worked.
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Police Chief Harold Hurtt will discuss the next phase of the Fatality Crash Reduction campaign today. The department is trying to reduce traffic deaths by targeting dangerous behavior. Starting today, officers will focus on aggressive driving and car seats. They have already increased enforcement of drunk driving laws.
I've heard this so many times. Not the drunk driving part, but the aggressive driving part. They say it, but don't follow up. Here in the DC area they put up many $100Ks worth of signs about "Aggressive Driving Imaging". I read something a couple years later that not a single ticket had been issued. I (an admittedly aggressive driver who has slowed down a bit with age) have never seen an imaging-mobile, although I've driven hundreds of thousands of beltway miles. I think it's a version of the security system signs without the system. I also think it's something that is very difficult to prove and prosecute, unless you can lead it with a speeding ticket. Personally, I think they should just pass the "driving while stupid" law and get all those other people offa my road!
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Just pay the ticket. At least it isn't a moving violation.

OK, nevermind. That's what I get for posting without reading the entire thread.
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Hawaii (or at least Oahu) had a Federally supported Click It or Ticket emphasis a few months back. This means the Feds give the state bucket loads of money and the state puts up a bunch of flashing signs and LE then pulls over a few drivers. I say a few 'cause Hawaii already has a 98% SB compliance. If the Feds wanted to save a couple of Hawaiian lives, they'd give us money to put up cross walk signals where pedestrians now cross 6 lanes of traffic.
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When I first moved to Houston in the early '80's a realtor told me--and rightly, too--that Houston was probably the only city in America that you could go 55 mph down the main street in town and not get ticketed. What happened, Houston? Dang! This means I have to follow the law if I go back there...pooh!
Really, the OP has a point, tho. If you haven't lived in Houston you have no idea the lack of Police there when it comes to traffic. You never see any hardly.
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I think not wearing a seat belt is just stupid. However, I am strongly opposed to the mandatory seat belt law, as I have stated elsewhere on here. I don't think you will find many pilots that don't wear a seat belt. Now I don't always wear a helmet on my scooter or bike.
I feel naked without wearing a seat belt in the car. Having said that, I think if a competent, consenting adult wants to sign a waiver agreeing not to make the government or the insurance company responsible for the cost of their treatment in an accident and they post a $100,000 bond to that effect to back it up, let them have their freedom and let Darwin settle it.
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I feel naked without wearing a seat belt in the car. Having said that, I think if a competent, consenting adult wants to sign a waiver agreeing not to make the government or the insurance company responsible for the cost of their treatment in an accident and they post a $100,000 bond to that effect to back it up, let them have their freedom and let Darwin settle it.
Diddo for those that go "hiking" in the mountains... particularly during the winter months. A $100,000 might cover the cost of the rescue.

Of course, they may well be the same people.
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I agree with ziggy. Anymore, I am so used to wearing the seat belt, that I feel uncomfortable until I'm buckled up. Really folks, this is just another habit, albeit a good one. My family was driven by my son, a firefighter, who is a safety freak. He will not start the car until everyone is buckled up. He has told me some stories that would make your skin crawl about car wrecks he has been called on. He said the ones that got him the most were those of little kids that were killed for lack of wearing a seatbelt. He's convinced us all. Do yourself a favor and buckle up. IT'S THE LAW!!
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I've heard this so many times. Not the drunk driving part, but the aggressive driving part. They say it, but don't follow up. Here in the DC area they put up many $100Ks worth of signs about "Aggressive Driving Imaging". I read something a couple years later that not a single ticket had been issued... I also think it's something that is very difficult to prove and prosecute, unless you can lead it with a speeding ticket.
No aggressive driving law in Texas as far as I know. An aggressive driver is, after all, defined by his/her actions, so just write citations for those actions (speed, unsafe lane change, unsafe distance, etc.)
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When I first moved to Houston in the early '80's a realtor told me--and rightly, too--that Houston was probably the only city in America that you could go 55 mph down the main street in town and not get ticketed. What happened, Houston? Dang! This means I have to follow the law if I go back there...pooh!
Really, the OP has a point, tho. If you haven't lived in Houston you have no idea the lack of Police there when it comes to traffic. You never see any hardly.
There's a few places in California that are like it, but for the most part Houston is a combination race track and demolition derby.

They do seem to be getting serious about actually enforcing traffic laws. Drove through H-Town today to go out to Spring, saw more guys shooting Lidar and Radar on the freeways than I have since...I moved here.

They have a nice strategy now using undercover cars to drive on the freeways spotting violations. They have a whole fleet of marked cars trailing behind them, or arrayed out in front of them, to make the stops. One car knocks down 5-6 violators in five-ten minutes. Flip flop to the other side, collect a new crew of marked units, and then they do it going the other direction. From what I've heard, they're writing people for everything - no more Mr. Nice Guy. You change three lanes without signaling, you get written for all three.

Two videos - first the news story on KPRC. Second one is a guy actually catching an operation on video.



This guy makes his videos too long, but listen to the scanner he's listening too and you can hear the undercover car calling out all the violations spotted on each car as he whistles in the marked units for the stop. One sounded like it violated the whole uniform traffic code - following too close, speeding, unsafe lane changes, failure to signal intent.



Houston is not a model traffic safety city, but playing a fool on the roadways is getting to be a costly game to play. Pass out multiple violation citations worth $1,000 or so and it might get peoples' attention.
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