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Old 09-05-2008, 12:50 PM   #41
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CZ makes a lot of sense to me - can people really tell the difference, w/o getting out a jeweler's loupe?

I almost always can spot a cz from several feet away but I was in the trade years ago. However, the real answer is that for most people, no, in the first few months or so anyway. After that most cz's will scratch somewhat if worn daily as a ring. Earrings less so. That is the problem with cz's, they scratch then it becomes cloudy to the eye and obvious that it is not a diamond. You can get a ASHA diamond simulant which will last several years and be a more realistic color (thus much harder to spot as cz) but the cost is higher. I would say if budget is a concern go with moissanite which will last "forever" and to me personally is prettier than a diamond but for a lot less cost.


What would a 1 caret good quality CZ go for? Ballpark? Just the stone? A 1 carat CZ will go for about $10. An Asha about $200 and a moissanite about $350-$400. The thing that most people will notice about the ring is the setting so if you go with a cz or moissanite, get a quality setting and it will be much harder to spot as a sim.
Thanks JustMeUC, I never even heard of moissanite or ASHA. Of course, it's too late for this couple, but I'll tuck that knowledge away. The young lady does work in the medical field, and was concerned about the abuse it might get on the job. So, still something to think about if it ever needed to be replaced, or to even get a 'work' ring versus a 'going out on the town' ring (though no one would ever know the diff, I'm sure).

But it is such an emotional thing for so many people. I joked with DW that when her ring had to go in for repair, that I sold the diamond and had the jeweler put in a 'fake'. I'm pretty sure the cash I'd get for the original wouldn't be worth the 'price' I'd pay if I really did that!

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Old 09-05-2008, 01:26 PM   #42
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Anyone can buy a diamond. But a rare, undervalued, crime-tinged, karma-impaired blood diamond-- now that's a deal!!

Sounds like you have a master salesman masquerading as your friend.

How the heck do we mortals know a diamond's "fair trade" value? It amazes me how the human brain has no idea what something is worth until we're given a "basis" for "comparison". The book "Predictably Irrational" really opened my eyes to this sales tactic.
Do you really need the diamond? You can't eat it, and it doesn't really change your life, unless you trade it for something you want. All it does is sparkle, and make you worry about it's source, as well as worry the one who may wear it. This is so trivial. You really don't need it to live on.
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:37 PM   #43
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I had been telling DW that CZ's look just like diamonds and you really can't tell the difference. We even look at some CZ ear studs she liked. So, I bought real diamond earrings and gave them to her for an anniversary. Reaction.... Oh these are nice.... back in the box..... I said, well DIAMONDS are a girl's best friend! It took several other hints, and something in the box finally caused her to realize they were diamonds and not CZs. The reaction was over the top.

Lesson learned.... Diamonds are a girls best friend, not Cubit Zirconium!
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I had been telling DW that CZ's look just like diamonds and you really can't tell the difference. We even look at some CZ ear studs she liked. So, I bought real diamond earrings and gave them to her for an anniversary. Reaction.... Oh these are nice.... back in the box..... I said, well DIAMONDS are a girl's best friend! It took several other hints, and something in the box finally caused her to realize they were diamonds and not CZs. The reaction was over the top.

Lesson learned.... Diamonds are a girls best friend, not Cubit Zirconium!
No way. Dividends are a girls best friend You can keep the carbon.
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