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Old 07-27-2014, 06:01 PM   #81
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I'll define "used to be" as 50 years ago, so 1964. Our childhood home was not air-conditioned. Stop right there - - things are much better.
Ours wasn't either until about 1965 and Dad bought the biggest window A/C he could find and put it in the upstairs window so the cold air would "fall" down stairs and have some cooling effect. He had to take out the window trim wood to get it to fit. With a box fan at the foot of the stairs it worked pretty well on all but the hottest days. That A/C was still there and worked when Mom sold the house in 1999. Montgomery Wards, of course.

The year before that we got a clothes dryer. That was a big deal for Mom. I remember her hanging clothes on the line in the winter.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:19 PM   #82
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Survivor bias here, had they died in childhood or early adulthood we never would have heard of them.

Its also worth noting that one of Franklin's sons died in childhoood, as did four of Jefferson's legitimate children and two of Washington's step-kids.

Not to mention that Washington died after (apparently) contracting strep-throat. It wasn't the strep that killed him, but rather the massive amount of blood he lost thanks to bloodletting at the hands of his doctors, who were attempting to cure him.

This is a long-ish read on the subject, but was interesting to me: http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2...tons_death.htm

Seems likely that given the state of the medical profession in those days, the poor farmer down the road who couldn't afford medical care might have been better off for it.
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As an average taxpayer, I'd have to look at my pocketbook. In 1980, the US debt was under a trillion dollars and my share was $11,000. Today, we're pushing 18 trillion, and now, I owe more than $150,000. Normal inflation would suggest that my debt share should only be $32,000.

...and my share of the 119 trillion in unfunded liabilities is more than a million dollars.

It looks like some of the "good life" didn't come on a pay as you go basis.
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As an average taxpayer, I'd have to look at my pocketbook. In 1980, the US debt was under a trillion dollars and my share was $11,000. Today, we're pushing 18 trillion, and now, I owe more than $150,000. Normal inflation would suggest that my debt share should only be $32,000.

...and my share of the 119 trillion in unfunded liabilities is more than a million dollars.
And we're counting on you to pay back every penny of it. Oh, and don't forget your DW's share...
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And we're counting on you to pay back every penny of it. Oh, and don't forget your DW's share...
Not to worry... she's far above average... I'm just average
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The year before that we got a clothes dryer. That was a big deal for Mom. I remember her hanging clothes on the line in the winter.
I vaguely remember my mother crying with happiness when she first got her dryer. She really wanted a dishwasher but my Dad was too deep into his everyday alcoholic haze to ever work up the energy to install one in the 48 years my Mom lived in the house. I have vowed not to be like my Dad, who was an example of some things to avoid.
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