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Old 01-23-2016, 07:25 PM   #41
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And, furthermore...as long as you don't eat the pretty flowers and don't just look at the ice cream, you'll be way ahead of the game.
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Old 01-23-2016, 07:31 PM   #42
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Aaack! What was that number for the Hemlock Society again?

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The problem is that you may become one of those types of people over a period of time and not realize that it is happening. (It might be happening as you read this post).
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Aaack! What was that number for the Hemlock Society again?
I had it a moment ago, but, now where could it be? If I remember, I'll look for it just as soon as I finish my ice cream and flowers.
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Aaack! What was that number for the Hemlock Society again?

I'm with you. Maybe live close to Oregon or hope that other states change their laws.


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I'm with you. Maybe live close to Oregon or hope that other states change their laws.


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Not sure why anyone acting alone (the victim) would care what the law is, in such a case.
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Not sure why anyone (the victim) would care what the law is, in such a case.

Cause we don't want to be arrested after we die. 😜
Seriously though, I was thinking more of Doctor assisted in the event the person is not capable of doing it themselves.


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This thread may qualify for the most gruesome of the year.
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Waiting for someone to tell us how foolish we are for predicting to live to 80.
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:52 PM   #49
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Sixteen years to go. Mom is 86 (going on 18) and sharp as a tack; like talking to a 40 year old. Her dad was equally sharp until his passing at 92 and HIS father died at 104 from an accident--he was stepping over a 3 foot fence and fell.

Unfortunately I take more after my dad who passed at age 57.

No problems with forgetfulness as of yet and still remember things from my very early childhood (crawling because I couldn't yet walk etc)...now, remembering what I had for lunch today is another matter.
One of my little games as I lay down for the night is "OK, what did I have for lunch? and for dinner?" So far so good but I'm only a kid at 65. Dunno what I'll do if I can't remember...
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58 so 22 years to find out. My father got it suddenly at 82 after a cataract operation. It was so dramatic that I think it had something to do with being under for so long. The operation took a couple of hours longer than it was supposed to. The day after, he started thinking that the people on TV were speaking to him. No sign of any problem before the operation.

The one thing I can say that was positive about that period was that in the last year of his life, the world in his head seemed to be happy for him. He was having conversations with his family and old friends.

I am hoping that my father's dementia had an environmental cause. I will stay away from general anesthesia if I can.

Don't you find it odd to be thinking of your future self in the third-person? Like you are trying to figure out how to provide for a child. What will future-self want at the far end of life? Will future-self be able to appreciate anything beyond being warm and well-fed?
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I try to stay in shape, but I don't expect much physically when I am 80, that's why I actively participate in everything I can NOW, because I know I won't be able one of these days.

As for mentally, I assume I will fare OK. My Dad is still lucid at 94. My Mom started to have some dementia before she passed away at 93 last Fall, but she was sharp as a tack until the last few months of her life.
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I'm with you. Maybe live close to Oregon or hope that other states change their laws.
I've told DW, if/when I get to 'that' stage, to point me towards the river, and then go visiting/shopping for the day; also to prepare to look 'shocked' when the notifying authorities are parked outside our place upon her return.
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It will be an interesting experiment with N=7 (my siblings and parents). My parents both died in the mid 80s but neither of them did a lick of exercise and both smoked most of their lives. My father was somewhat debilitated but still lucid up till the end, my mother had a mild cognitive impairment. My two sisters in their mid 80s are both still sharp as tacks and the more athletic of the two is doing great. My 82 yo brother (who also never did a lick of exercise) is showing some cognitive decline although it is hard to separate from general effects of his encroaching blindness. A brother one year older (68) is a runner and in great shape mentally and physically except for aFib (maybe a result of his excess running - marathons).

I dumped 35 pounds a few years back, haven't smoked in 45 years, have good BP and numbers, and exercise regularly. I hope to still be riding a bike in at least my early 80s but recognize that s**t happens so I am prepared to be limited by chance. I also hope to remain lucid until near the end but also recognize that is a crap shoot as well. I plan to turn over my finances to the kids if I start to decline but worry that I might be the last to recognize that it is happening.
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I do worry a bit about getting Alzheimers ...
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"It is one thing to forget where you left your car keys and a quite different thing to not remember what a key is."
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My criteria is:

"It is one thing to forget where you left your car keys and a quite different thing to not remember what a key is."
Good criterion.

Slightly off topic, but - - I don't think I will have to know what a key is when I am older. I already hate keys and have arranged my life so that I don't need them any more. My car has keyless entry and a push button ignition, and my house and garage have keypad entry deadbolts. I love this.
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....my house and garage have keypad entry deadbolts. I love this.
Now all you have to do is remember the codes.
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Now all you have to do is remember the codes.
This must be a good test in itself. Remembering the codes and passwords for all of the doors, e-mail and bank/credit card accounts and the answers to the security questions when memory starts to slip.

The keyless entry and push button starts are a problem and the self-driving cars are going to remove another flag.
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How sharp do I think I'll be at 80?

I suspect I will have outlived my teeth, probably have a bypass surgery, a hip replacement, new knees, be fighting prostate cancer and diabetes, be half blind, can't hear anything quieter than a jet engine, take 40 different medications that make me dizzy, winded, and subject to blackouts, have poor circulation, bouts with dementia, be unable to remember if I'm 85 or 92. But I'll be OK with that - as long as I still have my driver's license.
Dad? Is that you??!! If not, you sure sound like my dad. Just don't drive after dark and diaper up. You know you get lost and by the time you pull into the gas station, it's too late.
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How sharp do I think I'll be at 80?

I suspect I will have outlived my teeth, probably have a bypass surgery, a hip replacement, new knees, be fighting prostate cancer and diabetes, be half blind, can't hear anything quieter than a jet engine, take 40 different medications that make me dizzy, winded, and subject to blackouts, have poor circulation, bouts with dementia, be unable to remember if I'm 85 or 92. But I'll be OK with that - as long as I still have my driver's license.

Lord almighty, RE, you romanticize the aging process with such beautiful prose. Thanks to your post, and the fact I am just 51, I will modify Mick Jaggers famous quote with.... " I would rather be dead than be 80!".


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Good criterion.

Slightly off topic, but - - I don't think I will have to know what a key is when I am older. I already hate keys and have arranged my life so that I don't need them any more. My car has keyless entry and a push button ignition, and my house and garage have keypad entry deadbolts. I love this.
When I worked at a Surgery Center we would escort the patient & family to their car . Well once it was a keypad and neither of them could remember the code . After several attempts they had to call a cab .
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