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Old 09-18-2008, 06:32 PM   #41
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After 2004 and several hurricanes in a row I bought a generator and it hasn't been out of the box until this year when we had the Fay scare but it's great to know it is there if I need it . The peace of mind was worth every cent !
Same here.....I haven't needed it since I bought it, but it's there if I do! Peace of mind for me too!

I roll it out every so often to fire it up and make sure everything is A-OK with it.
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:14 PM   #42
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When we built here on the river in '04 we put in a 15KW Generac generator and Auto transfer switch. Ours runs on propane as no nat. gas in the area. They come from the factory set up for nat gas. I did the install and wiring. It took the better part of a weekend. We ave critical curcits such as the well pump, septic pump and refrigerators on the generator. Also put one of the water heaters on the generator for a steady state load and so DW can take a hot shower whenever she wants. The propane heatalator fire place is also on the generator.

We average about 10-20 hours of outage a year. This winter we lost the transformer in the switch yard that feeds this area. We were out for 24 hours in -20 weather before repairs could be made. I feel its been a good investment for the comfort and security it gives.

The unit is about 2x4x3 feet and sits next to the garage. The company also has units in the 7Kw and 12KW range.

I have no stock or interest in this product just in case you think this post is a sales pitch.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:18 PM   #43
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In Fairborn there is no ice
We worry and aren't so nice
But when electricity appears
Our friends will be welcome to our beers.

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There once was an E-R from Fairborn,
to whom ice was a rarity bar none.
Forced to drink warm beer,
she was devoid of all cheer,
until a neighbor offered a cool one.
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When Fairborn lost electricity,
Poor Khan just took sips of her hot hot tea.
She dreamed of a trip
By car or by ship
Though she'd miss her white squirrels and their tall tree!
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In Fairborn there is no ice
There is an ER who's nice
We miss her daily input
and hope her food is not kaput !
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Eh, you guys dont want me doing any of this stuff. Nantucket will figure squarely.
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They have ice in Nantucket?
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Oh, they most certainly do. Whole buttloads of it in the wintertime.
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I thought it came in buckets.
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Come on, we've already got Nantucket and buttloads, you want to throw buckets in there too?

Ah f--- it!!
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This is getting old.

Power still out.

Now I have to don't all the remaining vegetable soup into the compost; I had cooked up a large batch from the garden vegetables.

This morning I had tea, an apple, and a bit of cheese.

How long is bacon good if kept in a cooler?

Several houses over, there was a generator running in a garage with the door open a few inches.

Monday morning I got the car out. I have an electric door opener. When it was installed, he showed me how to disengage it. It worked. I got the door up (surprisingly light) then couldn't shut it because I couldn't reach it. My neighbor came over and closed it and locked it. Car's been outside ever since.

Went to the laundromat again yesterday, some rough looking customers there; but they were all behaved.

I have learned a new word; talking to different people at the grocery and laundry and discussing conditions of freezer and food: 2 different women said their meat had 'unthawed' (Firefox doesn't think it's a word either).

I'm sore from all the walking and lifting I've been doing.

In Fairborn, the business along Kaufmann Ave are still without power; I think the carwash brought in a generator. All those restaurants near the AF base closed for a week; some of them probably won't survive.

I think I'll buy lunch today.

I was feeling bad and realized I was dehydrated, so I bought a case of water and put a liter in the cooler in the morning and make sure I drink that.
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Bacon goodness depends on how cool your cooler is and how cold the bacon is within the cooler. If its <40 degrees in your cooler and the bacon is at that same temp, then it should be good until its expiration date. Most of the bacon I buy has an expiry about 3-4 weeks out.

Food that requires refrigeration thats kept >40 degrees doesnt last long. A couple of days at most.
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I have learned a new word....... 2 different women said their meat had 'unthawed'
Lemme see.....wouldn't that mean that the meat 'froze'? That's kinda like folks that want to buy a new 'hot water heater'......if the water's already hot, why would they need to heat it?

No wonder kids nowadays go to 'elementary' schools.....there's no such thing as 'grammar' schools anymore!
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The power is still out.

I'm at the library with my own computer.

I actually saw repair crews yesterday, but not in my neighborhood.

Who do I have to bleep to get bleeping electricity?

What do the gods/DP&L require?

18 year old virgins?
Foreskins?
First born?
A cloak of chipmunk fur?
Gas, grass or ***?
Does it have to be blood; does it have to be human; does it have to be mine?

I'm getting squirrely.

If I had a partner, we would be alternating between screaming at each other and screwing our brains out.
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Look out, or pretty soon you'll be sitting outside someones window, eating a nut and having your picture taken.
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I'll send my spouse down for emergency relief....

Seriously, I'm so sorry you're still stuck without power--there are life lessons to be learned in situations that you probably learned a long time ago.
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A transfer switch isolates your home from the power grid, and prevents you from feeding power back to the power lines and killing a lineman or having your generator fight the power company for phase control when the power comes back on. Think fire and explosion when that happens.
I can attest to the fire and explosion. Someone I knew setup a diesel generator to power his home business during blackouts, not realizing the problem Walt mentions could occur.

One stormy winter in New England, the power goes out, the generator goes on, and then finally when the power comes back on for the street - the electrical pole outside the building turns into a mini fireworks display... then the power was back out.
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Electricity has returned!

As I was driving home from the library, I noticed a lit porch light on the corner of out little blacked-out block.

As I turned onto my street, I saw another.

When I entered the house, I saw the cable box light was on.

I reset the clocks on the stove, microwave, and clock radio. The water softener was yelling at me and I had to reprogram it; have to replace the battery.

The fridge was still off, as I had turned off the breaker, since the door was open. Will restart and reload it shortly and put in a bucket of the remaining ice to help it along.

It will take a day or two for my jaw muscles to relax.
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Welcome back to the 20th Century, Khan.

I'd welcome you to the 21st but I know you don't own a clothes dryer...
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