Is an an electric scooter a realistic option for me?

[soupcxan]

I'm moving to a new apartment that is about 2 miles from the office. The route to the office has sidewalks and no major highways to cross so it is relatively safe for pedestrians. I have been toying with the idea of buying an electric scooter for my daily commute. From a practical point of view, this would reduce wear on the car as well as gas expenses. From an idealistic point of view, I'd like to be responsible for one less car sitting in traffic and less pollution. Overall this will not have much of an impact, but it is a start (plus I could charge up the scooter at work, let them pay the electricity bill heh heh).

Has anyone done this? Would you recommend it? Any particular models of scooters that are not too expensive (under $500) but still well-built and reliable?

Obviously, this would be subject to the weather, but I still have a car for days where it is excessively hot/cold or rainy, or for trips to the grocery store and other things where I need a "real" vehicle.

 

[Daneboy]

What about a pedal bike? Get a bit of a work out - lower cost to operate

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Re: 2 mile commute: realistic to get an electric scooter?

Check your local regs. Some scooters have requirements like a drivers license, helmets, liability insurance, plates, etc. It can be a pain in the butt.

Realistically, for a 2 mile trip, wouldnt you be better off with a bicycle, an electric bike, an electric moped or even one of those high end electric 'skateboards' with a handle?

I had an electric bicycle for a while, it was a good toy and didnt give me much trouble. Many can be had for well under $500 and have removable battery packs you can carry inside for charging.

 

[MasterBlaster]

It seems like the best way to get to work would be to walk.

I know that is heresy to most Americans. However you'll enjoy the world around you more, have time for yourself to think, and get some exercise along the way.

What could be better !

 

[Brat]

My father used his scooter chair on the city sidewalk all the time - shopping, doctor's visits and to people watch.  I thought it was great!  He wasn't handicapped in the traditional sense, but his driver's licence was yanked by Mom.  You can find that type of used scooters on Craigslist.  Take a couple for a spin, like cars differ in 'fit' and power.  Look for a basket to carry whatever.

In DT Seattle I saw a Segway in use.  The power version of the kid scooter might not have enough power.  

My only concern is the check your city ordances and consider where you would park your vehicle.

The little motor scooters, like the small Vesba, and power assist bikes are street vehicles.

 

[Alex]

are your legs broken or cut off? two miles is an awfully short walk and an even shorter bike ride for people with operable legs.

 

[soupcxan]

I think there's some confusion regarding the device I'm talking about. This is what I have in mind:

http://www.goped.com/Products/ESRSport/default.asp

It's small enough to avoid the need for insurance or a license plate and isn't street legal, so I would drive it on the sidewalks.

The area is too hot to make walking/bicycling an option because I have to dress up for work. But I think if I just stood on a scooter and didn't do any physical work, I wouldn't get sweaty.

 

[haha]

I think that the only powered vehicle that should be allowed on sidewalks is an electric wheelchair. IMO bicycles don't belong on sidewalks either.

Mothers are pushing prams, old folks are struggling along with walkers or canes, they don’t need to worry about wheeled vehicles. Skateboards are bad enough, but at least they are noisy, and the kids are usually very good riders.

Some moron almost ran over me a couple times flying along on his bike about 12:30 AM on the sidewalk. Next time I was ready for him with a golf club. No altercation, but he got the picture.

Sidewalks are for walking- that is why they are called sidewalks.

Ha

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Yeah, thats a skateboard with a handle. Scooters are a lot bigger.

Like this

You may find that its illegal to ride that device on many municipal sidewalks. Check your local laws.

You'd probably get away with it 99% of the time, but sooner or later you're either going to get a ticket from someone without enough to do, or someone else on the sidewalk will give you a shove...

 

[SC]

I have never ridden an electric bicycle, but I visited a neat store in Austin, TX that carried several models and was pretty impressed with how they managed to keep them looking like bicycles and not like scooters.
Aha, found them on the web:

http://www.alienscooters.com/bikes.html

I would've loved one of those back in school when I lived 5 miles from campus.

Can't say the go-ped appeals to me much - but then I never got into skateboards either.

 

[Brat]

As a kid who grew up in the late 50's a Vespa is the MG of scooters.  I saw a cute lime green one for sale in Pearl District of Portland last week,  DH needed to drag me off.. "You'll kill yourself!"  Maybe, but what a way to go.

 

[ladelfina]

I think it'll work if it looks more like a bike than a scooter. If you see a cop, just start pedaling a bit. Plus, if you get a ticket, just chalk it up against your savings..

Plus it depends on the kind of 'sidewalk'.. a lot of American cities have miles of sidewalks where no one really spends any time walking, along highways and huge mega-buildings. Just be courteous if you do encounter others.

 

[donheff]

are your legs broken or cut off? two miles is an awfully short walk and an even shorter bike ride for people with operable legs.

Screw it Soupxon, buy the bike. Two miles is a nice walk but doing it every day in the hot summer, coming in to work sweating bullets -- yuck. When I was a suit, even a bike wasn't a reasonable answer - you would need a shower and a whole darn wardrobe at work. Better to ride your skate board and excercise after work. The fitness complainers here are all ERd - ignore em

 

[Martha]

I think your idea is great soup.

I live two miles from work. Except in the dead of winter I usually walk. But it has been two hot for the past couple of weeks.

During the winter or bad weather the DH drives me to work.

 

[REWahoo]

During the winter or bad weather the DH drives me to work.

...and the rest of the time he drives you to drink?

 

[Martha]

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Its hardly worth driving to drink, its a short walk.

Yep, some of the elecbikes are hard to tell from the real thing, at least the non el cheapo ones.

The cops around here and some other parts use the ZAP bikes. Even Mercedes made one and it was something in its day but a bit dated in technology now. Heinzmann makes some really nice looking ones. Giant Lafree always tops the ratings.

Mine was just a super duty fold up military bike with a battery pack and a motor splined into the rear hub of the bike. Lead acid batteries. Weighed a lot. But my house was built in a very hilly area so the first mile in/out was almost impossible for a normal person to pedal through. Once I got out of that area, it was a little easier to pedal around. Motor had some heat problems, so I stuck a gigantic CPU heat sink on it. It was pretty obvious I wasnt running around on a regular bike at that point

When I was done fooling around with it, I stripped off the motor, batteries and throttle and my dads used it as a regular bike for the last 5 years.

Some are 'pedelecs' which means you have to pedal at least a little and the motor kicks in to help. Some (like mine) just have a throttle. I could get up to 15mph and go about 16-18 miles on a charge, even with the nasty hills.

In CA, up to 1000watts doesnt require any drivers license, registration, insurance or anything else. Just a helmet, and you cant operate it in some places, like non-motorized bike paths and whatnot. At least thats what the law was when I was using mine.

 

[Brat]

Here is a great link about this subject (electric scooters, bikes and the like): http://www.electric-bikes.com/levs/index.html

 

[justin]

Any solar-powered bikes yet?

Seems like a 450 w motor running for 4 miles roundtrip at an average speed of 12 mph would consume 150 watt-hours of energy. A 12 watt solar panel might fit on a bike somewhere, right? That should charge the battery in 12.5 hrs.

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

There actually ARE some solar chargers for bikes.

It takes a frickin' long time though, as you noted...

 

[Nords]

Any solar-powered bikes yet?   
Seems like a 450 w motor running for 4 miles roundtrip at an average speed of 12 mph would consume 150 watt-hours of energy.  A 12 watt solar panel might fit on a bike somewhere, right?  That should charge the battery in 12.5 hrs.

eBay is clogged with solar-powered rechargers. Boaters are driving this market but so are RVers.

Your only decision is how much wattage you want and matching connectors to your battery. You don't have to ride around with it-- put it at the office and recharge while you work.

 

[MJ]

Better to ride your skate board and excercise after work. The fitness complainers here are all ERd - ignore em

After 9/11, I rekindled my habit of commuting by bicycle to work in NYC. I did it for 4 years until I retired. My average commute was between 19 and 25 miles a day. Only cold (below 26 real degrees) and wet weather kept me off the bike. Hot weather didn't bother me except that I was forced to work in an A/C office. Too d*mn cold.
Note: We had a warehouse where I would wash myself off. I would then go to my office and change to my office clothing that I kept there. I must admit, I didn't have to wear suits so I kept 3 shirts and 3 docker style pants in my office. A lot of the office people didn't like me walking through (5 sec) the office with my bike. Heck, a lot of people just didn't like me. I used to think "f*** em". I must the admit the suits didn't much like it either but didn't say anything. Maybe that's another reason why they laid me off (praise the Lord).
mj

 

[Brat]

If you had worked for my former employer you would have been praised for a healthy lifestyle and provided appropriate facilities for your bike and arrival change of clothes.  If an employer is providing parking 4 bikes take the space of one car - a significant facilities saving. Add health care savings from fitter employees . . .  . . employer

 

[youbet]

I used to think "f*** em".

Have you ever noticed the wonderful versatility of the word f***?  In just the last few days, I've seen it used as a verb (both transitive and intransitive), noun, adjective, and adverb.  This includes the always tricky case of an adverb modifying an adjective.

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Perhaps one of the most interesting and colorful words in the English language today is the word "****". It is the one magical word which, just by its sound, can describe pain, pleasure, love, and hate.

In language, "****" falls into many grammatical categories.

* It can be used as a verb, both transitive (John ****ed Mary) and intransitive (Mary was ****ed by John).
* It can be an action verb (John really gives a ****), a passive verb (Mary really doesn't give a ****), an adverb (Mary is ****ing interested in John), or as a noun (Mary is a terrific ****).
* It can also be used as an adjective (Mary is ****ing beautiful) or an interjection (****! I'm late for my date with Mary).
* It can even be used as a conjunction (Mary is easy, **** she's also stupid).

As you can see, there are very few words with the overall versatility of the word "****". Aside from its sexual connotations, this incredible word can be used to describe many situations...

Greetings "How the **** are ya?"

Fraud "I got ****ed by the car dealer."

Resignation "Oh, **** it!"

Trouble "I guess I'm ****ed now."

Aggression "**** YOU!"

Disgust "**** me."

Confusion "What the ****.......?"

Difficulty "I don't understand this ****ing business!"

Despair "****ed again..."

Pleasure "I ****ing couldn't be happier."

Displeasure "What the **** is going on here?"

Lost "Where the **** are we."

Disbelief "UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE!"

Retaliation "Up your ****ing ass!"

Denial "I didn't ****ing do it."

Perplexity "I know **** all about it."

Apathy "Who really gives a ****, anyhow?"

Greetings "How the **** are ya?"

Suspicion "Who the **** are you?"

Panic "Let's get the **** out of here."

Directions "**** off."

Disbelief "How the **** did you do that?"

It can be used in an anatomical description- "He's a ****ing *******."

It can be used to tell time- "It's five ****ing thirty."

It can be used in business- "How did I wind up with this ****ing job?"

It can be maternal- "Mother ****er."

It can be political- "**** Dan Quayle!"

It has also been used by many notable people throughout history...

"What the **** was that?"
- Mayor of Hiroshima

"Where the **** is all this water coming from?"
- Captain of the Titanic

"That's not a real ****ing gun."
- John Lennon

"Who's gonna ****ing find out?"
- Richard Nixon

"Heads are going to ****ing roll."
- Anne Boleyn

"Let the ****ing woman drive."
- Commander of Space Shuttle

"What ****ing map?"
- "Challenger," Mark Thatcher

"Any ****ing idiot could understand that."
- Albert Einstein

"It does so ****ing look like her!"
- Picasso

"How the **** did you work that out?"
- Pythagoras

"You want what on the ****ing ceiling?"
- Michaelangelo

"**** a duck."
- Walt Disney

"Why?- Because its ****ing there!"
- Edmund Hilary

"I don't suppose its gonna ****ing rain?"
- Joan of Arc

"Scattered ****ing showers my ass."
- Noah

"I need this parade like I need a ****ing hole in my head."
- John F. Kennedy