Didn't we just have a thread on this very subject?
Yep, last summer. Stealth Wealth
https://www.early-retirement.org/forums/f27/stealth-wealth-118614.html
Didn't we just have a thread on this very subject?
Looking at me people see a 50 year old guy family guy living in a small 1950 Era middle class house for 25 years, driving a well worn 30 year old truck, and running a small nonprofit I started in 2015.
My toys, a restored 76 Monte Carlo and a rustic 50 year old mountain cabin, are either not well known about locally or very middle class.
A few years ago I had to clue my mother in, as she was worried about me financially.
I'm reasonably gold digger proof.
I have never worried about gold diggers in my case. No woman wants money that badly.
We live in the ranch house we bought in 1985, have 2001, 2004, and 2019 cars, and take our summer vacations on foot (backpacking). I'm sure that no one, not even family, suspects our real networth.
I remember reading once (in a paper magazine, 20 years ago, can't find it online) that Tony Banks, the keyboard player in Genesis who has got to be worth $50 million, used to take vacations with his wife in a VW camper van, because they enjoyed the simplicity.
We live in the ranch house we bought in 1985, have 2001, 2004, and 2019 cars, and take our summer vacations on foot (backpacking). I'm sure that no one, not even family, suspects our real networth.
What is this "comparison business" of which you speak?Loose lips sink ships.
Only we know. Not our children, not our neighbors, not our relatives. They certainly cannot tell by our lifestyle.
Why would we want others to know? Bragging rights, to somehow feel superior?
If anything DW is a little embarrassed by it.
We were brought up in an environment that discouraged ostentatious living. Finances were a very personal matter not to be shared. So called keeping up with the neighbors was a mugs game.
Never understood this comparison business that we see all time. Does everyone want to feel good or brad if they are above the artificial line so to speak. Beyond my comprehension.
What is this "comparison business" of which you speak?
Are your neighbors taping updated net worth dollar amounts to the side of their mailboxes each week?
Loose lips sink ships.
It is funny how things can slip out. About 6 years before FIRE, we were with some neighbors and one asked "what would it take for you to retire?". I said, well another million would be good. He looked at me and said, "well, that means you already have at least 1 million".yup
We have a new regional government in the part of Spain where we live. I don't like them much from a political point of view, but the other day I read that they are increasing the wealth tax threshold from <below what we have> to <above what we have>. This will save us about $1,000 this year. We don't really need another $1,000, but hey, I just fill in the form and the tax office tells me what to pay, that's the deal right?
The other day we were discussing the new government with (politically like-minded) neighbours and the subject of the wealth tax came up briefly. I don't remember the exact details of the conversation, but I very, very nearly revealed that we have enough in the pot that we have been paying it for the last couple of years. Our neighbours have no idea that we are worth 7 figures. We live in a normal apartment block with a modest car.
Is anyone else "under the radar" when it comes to letting on what you have in the bank? Do you have any strategies for preserving that?
FYI, This is not true, at least in the US. Mortgages are a matter of public record. I know someone that looks up whether people have a mortgage, and the amount, all the time. A quick google search will confirm this. This is what I got:People know we live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood and could easily look up a value on Zillow. They could not, however, determine whether we have a mortgage. ...
Although the requirements vary from state-to-state, each state requires the formal recording of real property in a county office in order to be valid. This means that almost every properly recorded property will have a mortgage record on public file (provided there have been any mortgages)
... I know someone that looks up whether people have a mortgage, and the amount, all the time. ...