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Old 09-11-2008, 11:14 AM   #21
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....and on another occasion an equally large mass of another product which will remain nameless, but suffice it to say that my wife leaves a box of them out as a warning signal to keep my mouth shut every now and then.
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Some of the earlier low flow toilets were wimpy in the flush. The newer ones have solved the problem and with the two we have now it's not a problem at all. There was a noticeable drop in our water usage when we changed to the low flows. The next time we need a new toilet I'd like to get a dual flush one. Makes a lot of sense.

On the other hand, I find a low flow shower head intolerable. I feel like I'm in the "Oliver" movie pleading, "Please sir, may I have some more?" I had saved our original shower head and after about two days I took out the low flow one and put back the old one. I refuse to feel guilty about it.
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If all the toilets are having the same problem, you might have to fish the cleanout for the main drain with a snake. Any trees growing near the sewer line? If its just one or all the ones on one floor, you might just want to call a plumber.
My slow draining flush toilets problem was diagnosed by two plumbers (independent of each other) as tree roots. I had a service come in and videocam my line to its tie up with the main sewer line, and there were two points in my old clay pipe sewer line where tree roots had come in. Luckily, I had a wide lawn and since the videocam service also included the # of feet from where the clean out valve began, I could measure on my lawn where those points were.

The plumbers proposed $8,000.00 to dig up and replace the old clay pipe with pvc sewer pipe for about a 24 foot length. My son and I dug up the spots and went down about 4 1/2 feet each time (leisurely digging on my part which was on and off for 3 weeks in the summer), and isolated the pipe joints. I then called in the plumber to cut the pipe and replace with an (municipality) approved plastic type sleeve to join the excised lengths. Cost me $600.00 for the two areas, and I backfilled it myself according to code. No more slow flow.
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We have guys around here that'll dig one hole, core the whole thing out and then feed a sleeve into it. Almost no digging and you get a whole new line.

I have no idea how much it costs...but Gabe and I watched a crew put one in last year. Not sure which of us found it more interesting...
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On the other hand, I find a low flow shower head intolerable. I feel like I'm in the "Oliver" movie pleading, "Please sir, may I have some more?" I had saved our original shower head and after about two days I took out the low flow one and put back the old one. I refuse to feel guilty about it.
We've had this one for over six months and it's more than lived up to its hype:
Oxygenics®- Super Charge Your Shower

No cleaning or mineral removal required, either...
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I refuse to feel guilty about it.
I'll do you one better...I installed a dual showerhead in our master shower, and took both the water regulators out. I'd originally done this so that when Gabe wants to take a shower with me or his mom, one of us isnt standing under the water while the other freezes.

Sometimes I turn on both showerheads at the same time when I'm in there by myself. Its like being under Niagara Falls.
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We've had this one for over six months and it's more than lived up to its hype
Little handheld showerhead. You can tell who was in the Navy and who wasnt.

My dad, at age 75, still takes a shower by getting wet, turning the shower off, soaping up, turning the shower back on to rinse and then turning it off again. He's had the city over to his house 3 times to check the water meter because it was turning in numbers so low they thought it was broken.
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Little handheld showerhead. You can tell who was in the Navy and who wasnt.
Hey, it comes with wall/spigot attachments. The nice thing about this low-flow showerhead is that you don't have to feel guilty. Plenty of spray, plenty of pressure, no clogging. And in a pinch it can also be used to pressure-wash the walls!

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My dad, at age 75, still takes a shower by getting wet, turning the shower off, soaping up, turning the shower back on to rinse and then turning it off again. He's had the city over to his house 3 times to check the water meter because it was turning in numbers so low they thought it was broken.
Been there, done that, won't do it anymore. Especially when spouse and I already save so much water by showering together.

It turns out that the entire adult human lifecycle (including food prep & laundry) can be supported by the Navy's habitability goal of 22 gallons per day. Extra required for flushing toilets if they don't use seawater.

The submariner's quarters in Yokosuka & Subic Bay had waterfall showerheads with such heavy flow that you practically needed a SCUBA regulator to stand under them. After a month or two at sea (especially if the evaporator had been breaking down) I'd just stand under it for five minutes... with a cold beer... it was almost as good as going on liberty. At least until I finished the beer.
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Wow...toilets, washers, wire hangers, Joan Crawford, waffles, showerheads and submarines all in the same thread with just 28 posts. Is this a record?
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Wow...toilets, washers, wire hangers, Joan Crawford, waffles, showerheads and submarines all in the same thread with just 28 posts. Is this a record?

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Wow...toilets, washers, wire hangers, Joan Crawford, waffles, showerheads and submarines all in the same thread with just 28 posts. Is this a record?
Bacon! Kayaks!!

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Thanks Nords! I felt like something was missing....
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Ah, Nords you bring back fond memories of our little sailboat and the miserly water usage it required. Once a week we would buy a $2 shower and stand under the water for a full 5 minutes savoring washing away the salt water crust. We had a foot pump for the sink fresh water and seawater for the toilet. Ah, the fun times.

How romantic that you and your wife shower together all the time!
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She's just holding his beer so it wont get wet.
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Two comments spring to mind:
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Little handheld showerhead. You can tell who was in the Navy and who wasnt.

My dad, at age 75, still takes a shower by getting wet, turning the shower off, soaping up, turning the shower back on to rinse and then turning it off again. He's had the city over to his house 3 times to check the water meter because it was turning in numbers so low they thought it was broken.
That's funny, it's been a while since we had a drought.
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After two almost rainless rainy seasons we're approaching one. Several areas have voluntary water reduction conditions in place. The reservoirs around here look like a bomb crater that collected a little water in the bottom. You have to drive about 1/2 mile across the former lake bed to get to the muddy waterfront.

Which by the way is fine by dogs and 3 year olds.

Its kinda cool in a few places where they dammed and flooded former communities, since the water level has dropped enough to expose remnants of the towns like buildings and artifacts.

But it'd be really cool if we got some big rain this year.
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Yeah, we're way overdue for a real rainy season, straight through from Nov.-late spring; the umbrellas are ready and I won't mind because I don't have to commute in it.
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