calmloki
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We have some old duplexes with 30 gallon gas water heaters in the bathrooms: guess that's not kosher any more. Very limited room available, so i've been looking into options - one option would be to delete a section of kitchen cabinet and rewire and plumb for undercounter 40 gallon electrics. Another option is to mount a gas sealed combustion tankless WH in the bathroom in the original WH location. Downside is it will require chimney upgrades and new gas line - the tankless units take 190k BTU at max vs about 30kBTU for the old WHs. Tankless electric WHs require 2 or 3 huge supply cables and 2 or 3 60amp 240v breakers per heater; read major breaker panel upgrade. An outside mount gas tankless WH maximises room inside, doesn't require a chimney, but does require freeze protection housings for the lines, replumbing gas and water lines, and supplying a 120v receptacle at the heater to run the ignitor (Bosch makes what they call a hydro-powered ignitor, no need for a power circuit, but costs about $200 more than comparable heaters).
The gas-fitters, plumbers, and electricians are hurting my feelings really bad. Like $4250 for a small Rinnai WH, installed outside, no repairs to the interior where the old WH gets removed. It has to be inspected, and it's a rental, so i have to go with licensed workmen and don't get to do it myself. That's about $3000 for labor. Talking a new heater location right next to the crawlhole, a roomy crawl, just weatherized last year, so nice new groundcover and insulation all up in place, 15' to the gas meter and 7' to the water line connection points straight in from the crawl hole.
So. Before dropping more than 10 months of a unit's rent on a single water heater installation - is anybody out there using a tankless? Gas or electric? Happy with it? Capacity and make of your unit? Our little duplex units are tiny one bedroom, shower only, bathroom sink, kitchen sink, the end - no dishwasher or washing machine.
The gas-fitters, plumbers, and electricians are hurting my feelings really bad. Like $4250 for a small Rinnai WH, installed outside, no repairs to the interior where the old WH gets removed. It has to be inspected, and it's a rental, so i have to go with licensed workmen and don't get to do it myself. That's about $3000 for labor. Talking a new heater location right next to the crawlhole, a roomy crawl, just weatherized last year, so nice new groundcover and insulation all up in place, 15' to the gas meter and 7' to the water line connection points straight in from the crawl hole.
So. Before dropping more than 10 months of a unit's rent on a single water heater installation - is anybody out there using a tankless? Gas or electric? Happy with it? Capacity and make of your unit? Our little duplex units are tiny one bedroom, shower only, bathroom sink, kitchen sink, the end - no dishwasher or washing machine.