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Hillary Clinton 41 34.75%
John Edwards 12 10.17%
Barack Obama 3 2.54%
Bill Richardson 0 0%
Rudy Giuliani 15 12.71%
Mike Huckabee 18 15.25%
John McKain 4 3.39%
Ron Paul 5 4.24%
Mitt Romney 11 9.32%
Fred Thompson 9 7.63%
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Old 01-12-2008, 05:42 AM   #61
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ERD50 - you're right! (and I went too far in my speculations.. it shouldn't matter what any pres. couple's relationship is as long as it doesn't affect their job).

I usually don't like Dave Barry as much as most people seem to.. but this was funny:
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When her eyes appeared to well up with tears during a campaign appearance at a New Hampshire diner, was that real welling? Or did she fake the welling? If she did, in fact, well, do we know for certain that those were her own personal tears? Why was no sample made available to the media for testing?
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Looking at the list I can't help but wonder where the Ronald Regans and John Kenedys of today are? This is the best we have got?
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My mom doesn't trust any of the candidates. She thinks that anyone who wants to be President is nuts.
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I think the issue of being "handled" by consultants is true for most if not all the candidates. Al Gore & Bob Dole both seemed to me more "real" once their elections were over than at any time during the campaign. It's as if you must trade your personality (and perhaps your soul) for some sort of Stepford persona in order to run for president.
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ERD50 - you're right! (and I went too far in my speculations.. it shouldn't matter what any pres. couple's relationship is as long as it doesn't affect their job).

I usually don't like Dave Barry as much as most people seem to.. but this was funny:
Well, you may have missed my point - I wasn't really saying that the relationship that a candidate has with their spouse doesn't matter. If that is important to a significant % of voters, then it 'matters'. I think it's reasonable that some people might think that the way a candidate deals with their personal relationships can be an indicator (at least to a degree) of how they may deal with external relationships. Some may think it is irrelevant - personal call, I guess.

What I was (and also Rustic I think) reacting to was your view that Bill & Hillary's relationship appears to be better than the Bush's and their spouses. Now, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but I think many people would not see it that way. My impression (just an impression, I may be wrong) is that the only thing holding the Clinton relationship together is their mutual desire for power (not a criticism, an observation). Bill has publicly humiliated himself and his wife and damaged the relationship over his affairs, which he knew would run the risk of becoming public. I'm not aware of any disrespect like that in the Bush relationships - but for all we know, there could be worse (but not public) issues. Or they could be 'cold' relationships - but who knows? But I personally see no reason to assume the Clinton's relationship is better than either of the Bush's. Thus, the 'colored glasses' comment.

Oh, the Dave Barry satire *is* funny (in a sad kind of way) - very much ado about very little, this whole 'emotion' thing - can't the press talk about the important stuff?

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I think the issue of being "handled" by consultants is true for most if not all the candidates. Al Gore & Bob Dole both seemed to me more "real" once their elections were over than at any time during the campaign. It's as if you must trade your personality (and perhaps your soul) for some sort of Stepford persona in order to run for president.
Thanks, I meant to comment on that one too...

again, Ladelfina - rosy colored glasses? I also think this scenario applies to all candidates. There is a strong fear that offending any one group could hurt your chances, so they walk on eggshells, and in some ways, try to avoid saying anything at all.

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Reminds me of Chris Rock on SNL when talking about the possibility of Bush picking Colin Powell as his VP in 2000.
Chris Rock on whether America is ready for a black president: "Why not? We already tried a retarded president."

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If you want to get a feeling for what's involved in electing a president, rent The War Room. A behind-the-scenes documentary about the Clinton for President campaign, focusing on the adventures of spin doctors James Carville and George Stephanopoulos.

It shows how the election hinges more on clever turns of phrases rather than issues.

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A Secret Service Agent during the Clinton administration made the comment that they would be outside the residence and the words the Clinton's would call each other could not be printed. Then, the door would open, out would come Bill and Hillary arm in arm with a big smile on their face. He said it was a common occurrence before and especially after Monica.
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Mike Huckabee.

Some excellent politicians have had personal religous faith, fine. But the evangelicals scare me and his stand on evolution makes me think he values faith more than logic or reason in decision making. Maybe that works well for his own personal ethics, but I have nightmares about two large populations squaring off against each other, each with no restraint because God is on their side.
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Same here. Christians against the muslims. Crusades, part II.
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Then Hillery thinks "that no woman is an illegal alien". I guess she will say anything to anyone to get their vote. She just won't get mine .

Huckbee won't get my vote either. His support for allowing illegal aliens to get instate college tuition and scholarships is a non starter for me.
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Her old man humiliated her by getting oral sex while in office ( and got caught ). Obviously if she didnt have the backbone to kick his ass out why would I vote for her as a president? No backbone.
It's a given that Bill Clinton has a zipper problem. He's not running. I still don't know who I'm going to back, but I know nothing about the sex lives of the candidates or their spouses, and that's just fine with me. OK, I know more about Bill's than I'd like.

But given that this country elected and re-elected a convicted and admitted drunken driver, seems like deciding against Hillary because her husband committed adultery with a consenting adult is a little bit, oh, I don't know, inconsistent.

Having lost two friends to drunken drivers, I consider DUI premeditated murder.
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It's a given that Bill Clinton has a zipper problem.
Hey, no special treatment for anyone here, even ex-Presidents. Bill can just put him on ignore like everyone else.
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It's a given that Bill Clinton has a zipper problem. He's not running. I still don't know who I'm going to back, but I know nothing about the sex lives of the candidates or their spouses, and that's just fine with me. OK, I know more about Bill's than I'd like.

But given that this country elected and re-elected a convicted and admitted drunken driver, seems like deciding against Hillary because her husband committed adultery with a consenting adult is a little bit, oh, I don't know, inconsistent.

Having lost two friends to drunken drivers, I consider DUI premeditated murder.
You asked why someone wouldnt vote for Hillary. I gave my reason. You bring up something about a drunk guy and that the country voted him in. This pertains to me how? By the way I didnt vote for the drunk guy either. You quoted me so Im assuming you were directing that at me.
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You asked why someone wouldnt vote for Hillary. I gave my reason. You bring up something about a drunk guy and that the country voted him in. This pertains to me how? By the way I didnt vote for the drunk guy either. You quoted me so Im assuming you were directing that at me.
Oops. I didn't mean it personally, sorry. I do appreciate your response and I don't think you're wrong to feel the way you do. I just don't understand how we did indeed vote in an admitted alcoholic - TWICE - and yet be upset about a little adultery. When I say "we" I mean this country.
I'm visiting France soon and I know I'll be asked, if they don't believe me when I lie and say I'm Canadian. Of course I plan on saying "Sorry, I don't know" a lot - about everything - so it probably won't be a problem.
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Oops. I didn't mean it personally, sorry. I do appreciate your response and I don't think you're wrong to feel the way you do. I just don't understand how we did indeed vote in an admitted alcoholic - TWICE - and yet be upset about a little adultery. When I say "we" I mean this country.
I'm visiting France soon and I know I'll be asked, if they don't believe me when I lie and say I'm Canadian. Of course I plan on saying "Sorry, I don't know" a lot - about everything - so it probably won't be a problem.
I see well its nice we can have a discussion about it!
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It's a given that Bill Clinton has a zipper problem. He's not running. I still don't know who I'm going to back, but I know nothing about the sex lives of the candidates or their spouses, and that's just fine with me. OK, I know more about Bill's than I'd like.

But given that this country elected and re-elected a convicted and admitted drunken driver, seems like deciding against Hillary because her husband committed adultery with a consenting adult is a little bit, oh, I don't know, inconsistent.

Having lost two friends to drunken drivers, I consider DUI premeditated murder.
When you say that the country elected and re-elected a convicted and admitted drunken driver are you referring to the DUFUSCIDER Old George W?
I too have wondered how they could have re=elected this mangy varmint when it is evident that his lies and his half truths were the reasons for the U.S attacking/invading Iraq.

What happened to the WANTED DEAD or ALIVE Poster on Bin Laden? As far as people known Mr. Bin Laden is still running around making videos and tapes in which he mocks the U.S, the world and Old George W.

Some might say that the premeditated murder was sending OUR TROOPS to fight in Iraq in which there are 3900 plus of OUR TROOPS killed, 20000 plus OUR TROOPS wounded and maimed and an estimated 10000000 plus innocent Iraq civilians killed, wounded and maimed.

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toofrugal.. don't forget Laura.
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