mickj said:They upheld the Nationwide ban on partial birth abortion.
HFWR said:I'm ok with it...
HFWR said:I'm ok with it...
lazygood4nothinbum said:i frankly don't quite know what partial-birth abortion is--and please, don't bother offering me the no-doubt grizzly details; i'm having enough trouble just dealing with onychorrhexis.
Masterblaster said:would we really need is post-adolecence post-birth abortion.
I can think of a few candidates that are well qualified for that procedure
lazygood4nothinbum said:no one born or unborn has a right to my blood nor to my milk. that would be a privilege, not a right.
bosco said:Not to provide said milk has a name: child abuse.
ladelfina said:http://tinyurl.com/226bwn
These kinds of procedures happen in drastic situations where the mother WANTED to carry the baby to term. It's not something undertaken "because someone doesn't want to be pregnant" anymore.
Ask the Bushies about that "abstinence only"sex ed and how THAT's going... if you're worried about abortions.
Also, ask 'em about their recent "pro-life" comments about arming students...
You want opinions? I got 'em.
lazygood4nothinbum said:i frankly don't quite know what partial-birth abortion is--and please, don't bother offering me the no-doubt grizzly details; i'm having enough trouble just dealing with onychorrhexis.
in spiitual terms (if you are one to separate physical from spiritual--which i am not) i do feel life sacred: but that would be all of life, the good as well as the bad, not just some specific parts selected by particular religions.
on a humanistic and a judicial level, i hold each person to be sovereign in their self. i do not believe that anyone, born or unborn, has a right to any one else's body. no more so than i would believe that anyone has a right to one of my kidneys.
no one born or unborn has a right to my blood nor to my milk. that would be a privilege, not a right. in kind, i consider my own birth to be a privilege, not my mother's obliglation to have carried me to term. to think you had a right to be born is to exhale arrogance in your first breath. but to think your birth a privilege allows you to be that much more grateful to your mother and there you breathe in grace.
lazygood4nothinbum said:if you want bumper sticker thinking then consider this: would jesus have sacrificed the virgin mary just to enter this world?
lazygood4nothinbum said:in your mockery, you missed the metaphor entirely.
I'm confused too. What principle is it that makes one procedure illegal while another is okay when both accomplish the same thing?bright eyed said:i was just listening to the recording of the Supreme Court hearing and now i'm confused and getting annoyed.
what i gleaned were that there are two procedures that are used in Late term abortions - one called d&X and one called d&e.
it is only one type of procedure the court allowed to be banned.
and it seemed from the arguments that this really steps on the doctors abilities to make medical judgements about what is best for their patients.