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MenWeb - Men's Issues: Evolving Men’s Work And the Seattle Men’s Evolvement Network
This article is old, but pretty much summed up the problem with getting men to work with committment when they are not acutely troubled or seeking an immediate reward.
The women’s movement has been going on and on, since the ’60s. Have we men shot our wad, and are we now done with it?
Hey, it was great while it lasted! I was lucky enough to spend some time with Tom Golden, a physically distant but very close friend who’s also an international expert on men and grief. You may remember the M.E.N. Magazine articles on men and grief (now the heart of the MenWeb men and grief section). As we wandered through Volunteer Park and climbed the water tower to look out over the city, water and mountains we ruminated over Men’s Work. Tom said, “Yeah, but I miss the energy of those big gatherings!”
I searched for men's groups Seattle and found few current listings for hetero-sexual men. What is there seems tilted toward the "sexually adventurous".
Men are often not particularly good at supporting one another. There is homophobia, there is the feeling that this is not a really worthwhile use of time, and other blocks that I am not aware of.
Probably the best men's group is a long lasting golf foursome! What ever became of drumming? Last 2 drumming groups that I visited I was informed that although I was welcome, this was really for gay men. So probably not the best way for me to have like-minded guys to discuss gender issues with. Oh wait, hetero-sexual men aren't supposed to have gender issues! All that smarmy stuff gets handled by their wives & SOs.
There are various mixed men/women groups geared to intests such as African drumming. Not infrequently this devolves into which guys are going to get to bang the cute women, and vice versa.
One night my dance class was overbalanced with men, so we had to take turns waiting for partners. Didn't take long to get pretty competitive! I even found myself saying to one guy who was lingering with the woman that was up next for me-"Dude, you're done!".
It just came out of my mouth without thinking, but I sure took notice of it, as did he.
Ha
This article is old, but pretty much summed up the problem with getting men to work with committment when they are not acutely troubled or seeking an immediate reward.
The women’s movement has been going on and on, since the ’60s. Have we men shot our wad, and are we now done with it?
Hey, it was great while it lasted! I was lucky enough to spend some time with Tom Golden, a physically distant but very close friend who’s also an international expert on men and grief. You may remember the M.E.N. Magazine articles on men and grief (now the heart of the MenWeb men and grief section). As we wandered through Volunteer Park and climbed the water tower to look out over the city, water and mountains we ruminated over Men’s Work. Tom said, “Yeah, but I miss the energy of those big gatherings!”
I searched for men's groups Seattle and found few current listings for hetero-sexual men. What is there seems tilted toward the "sexually adventurous".
Men are often not particularly good at supporting one another. There is homophobia, there is the feeling that this is not a really worthwhile use of time, and other blocks that I am not aware of.
Probably the best men's group is a long lasting golf foursome! What ever became of drumming? Last 2 drumming groups that I visited I was informed that although I was welcome, this was really for gay men. So probably not the best way for me to have like-minded guys to discuss gender issues with. Oh wait, hetero-sexual men aren't supposed to have gender issues! All that smarmy stuff gets handled by their wives & SOs.
There are various mixed men/women groups geared to intests such as African drumming. Not infrequently this devolves into which guys are going to get to bang the cute women, and vice versa.
One night my dance class was overbalanced with men, so we had to take turns waiting for partners. Didn't take long to get pretty competitive! I even found myself saying to one guy who was lingering with the woman that was up next for me-"Dude, you're done!".
It just came out of my mouth without thinking, but I sure took notice of it, as did he.
Ha
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