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Old 09-29-2016, 03:10 PM   #1561
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I am one of those people. The reason is safety.

By backing in, I can "survey" the area better to look for stuff that might damage my vehicle like a board with a nail in it, and small children. Tragically, I've seen the aftermath of that.

When I leave I have a better view of where I'm going and the driver's position in most vehicles is farther forward, so I can see approaching traffic better.

Oh, and I can do this without going forward and backing three times since I'm well-practiced at it.

Most of the time I try for a spot that I can just pull straight out of without any reverse gear at all. DW is very good at this because for a year or so her car didn't have a reverse gear. Well, not one that worked anyway.
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Old 09-29-2016, 03:14 PM   #1562
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People that back into parking spaces.
Parallel parking is the standard way to park, because of the safety concerns that Walt mentioned. It is the only practical way to park when space is tight, as it usually is in Europe. Good parallel parking skills on a hilly street (with manual transmission!) were required to pass my driving test there. Many years later I passed a driving test in the US, but it was on an off-road course with barrels placed so far apart I could have parked a semi between them.
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Old 09-29-2016, 03:35 PM   #1564
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Parallel parking is the standard way to park, because of the safety concerns that Walt mentioned. It is the only practical way to park when space is tight, as it usually is in Europe. Good parallel parking skills on a hilly street (with manual transmission!) were required to pass my driving test there. Many years later I passed a driving test in the US, but it was on an off-road course with barrels placed so far apart I could have parked a semi between them.
That very much depends on where you live in suburbs most parking is offstreet in lots that surround the stores (as indeed in small towns). In my town the only place where parallel parking exists is the downtown which is small and also has a big parking garage. (Not used much since it used to be associated with a hospital, which moved elsewhere). Many small towns tend to have wide enough streets that angle parking also exists on the streets.
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That very much depends on where you live in suburbs most parking is offstreet in lots that surround the stores (as indeed in small towns). In my town the only place where parallel parking exists is the downtown which is small and also has a big parking garage. (Not used much since it used to be associated with a hospital, which moved elsewhere). Many small towns tend to have wide enough streets that angle parking also exists on the streets.
Yes, but Texas is not the same as everywhere else in the world!
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Old 09-29-2016, 04:38 PM   #1566
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I am one of those people. The reason is safety.

By backing in, I can "survey" the area better to look for stuff that might damage my vehicle like a board with a nail in it, and small children. Tragically, I've seen the aftermath of that.

When I leave I have a better view of where I'm going and the driver's position in most vehicles is farther forward, so I can see approaching traffic better.

Oh, and I can do this without going forward and backing three times since I'm well-practiced at it.

Most of the time I try for a spot that I can just pull straight out of without any reverse gear at all. DW is very good at this because for a year or so her car didn't have a reverse gear. Well, not one that worked anyway.
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I have limited range of motion from c-spine issues. I can't look over my shoulder or whip my head back and forth as busy parking places require. Or I could attempt to blindly back out with zero vision and see who stops. Nah, I've been rear ended too many times and know how that ends.

Like Walt no multiple attempts, just back in.
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I have limited range of motion from c-spine issues. I can't look over my shoulder or whip my head back and forth as busy parking places require. Or I could attempt to blindly back out with zero vision and see who stops. Nah, I've been rear ended too many times and know how that ends.

Like Walt no multiple attempts, just back in.
Note that almost all 2016 cars now have backup cameras standard. Also you can get rear obstacle detection as well. With limited mobility the backup camera might make sense, you can buy aftermarket cameras as well, although at around 1k installed one would have to consider the value of the base car as well. Aftermarket obstacle detection systems are also available.
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Note that almost all 2016 cars now have backup cameras standard. Also you can get rear obstacle detection as well. With limited mobility the backup camera might make sense, you can buy aftermarket cameras as well, although at around 1k installed one would have to consider the value of the base car as well. Aftermarket obstacle detection systems are also available.
My '14 Sierra has both. Great improvement over the old way. Sometimes I can't see the screen due to sunshine and the version of side detection I have isn't adequate to pull out blindly with someone jackrabbiting besides you at 15 in a parking lot. Might want to consider a camera for our other vehicle.
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My pet peeve happened again today. We went to see an early movie and no one was in the theater when we sat down. The movie was about to begin when two ladies came in. With a really large theater available, they sat directly behind us! Then they kicked our seats, talked, dug through their purses, and generally were distracting. After about 5 minutes, we moved about 8 seats over.

Now why would you come in a theater and do that? We were sitting off center, so it wasn't like we had the best position anyway. People amaze me.


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My pet peeve happened again today. We went to see an early movie and no one was in the theater when we sat down. The movie was about to begin when two ladies came in. With a really large theater available, they sat directly behind us! Then they kicked our seats, talked, dug through their purses, and generally were distracting. After about 5 minutes, we moved about 8 seats over.

Now why would you come in a theater and do that? We were sitting off center, so it wasn't like we had the best position anyway. People amaze me.


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I think some folks are wired a little(ok a lot) funny. Some kind of behavior they don't even know or recognize in themselves. Curious no doubt. Probably somehow similar in nature to why cows face North.
I think it's called situational awareness. Some lack it so they don't understand how to act appropriately in a given environment.
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Yes, I am. Right now am concerned about the folks left behind who seem to allow themselves to be bullied. Am hoping other members of the board will find the tenacity to join together in holding this person accountable. Will take perseverance to bring in nat'l office for guidance on how to do this legally, properly.

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Parallel parking is the standard way to park, because of the safety concerns that Walt mentioned. It is the only practical way to park when space is tight, as it usually is in Europe. Good parallel parking skills on a hilly street (with manual transmission!) were required to pass my driving test there. Many years later I passed a driving test in the US, but it was on an off-road course with barrels placed so far apart I could have parked a semi between them.
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Yes, I was not referring to parallel parking, such as is done along a street. I get that that is done by backing in, so as to get into a tighter spot. Most people cannot do it correctly, but that is a different matter.

I was referring to "perpendicular" parking such as is done in most parking lots. And I thought Walt made a nice defense of backing in. But I still maintain it is inefficient for people who are waiting for such "backers" to park, and for whom no brake or back-up lights warn that a car is about to enter the roadway. I find that pulling into the spot is more efficient and more considerate of other drivers.

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With a really large theater available, they sat directly behind us!

Now why would you come in a theater and do that? We were sitting off center, so it wasn't like we had the best position anyway. People amaze me.
I'm sure there's some psychological explanation, like anchoring or herding behaviour.
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Well I just saw this pet peeve thread. I have some:

People that back into parking spaces. Holds up traffic. And why is it that folks who back in seem to need to take 2-3 runs at the spot before "getting it right"? And then when they leave the spot, since they are not backing up, there are no taillights warning you someone is about to pull out. It seems more dangerous than simply pulling in.
A lot of corporate safety rules demand that you back into parking places. The thinking goes that at quitting time, you want to get the hell out of dodge, so you are in a hurry and are less aware of your surroundings.
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Unfortunately, I sit on the board of the organization that employs him. Each of us is getting new variations on every story/excuse he tells. Can't figure out if he thinks we are stupid.....or if there is something just flat-out WRONG with him, other than his preference for fiction over fact.

Well, maybe it's good that the whole board gets to see it. Now, what to do about it? Any suggestions?

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That reminds me of a story. I used to work for a mid-size mutual insurer. A new board member wryly observed that an unusual number of cars were parked backed in and suggested that was indicative of a workforce that was mostly more interested in getting home than getting to work. (He was right... the place was virtually abandoned after hours.)
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Well I just saw this pet peeve thread. I have some:

People that back into parking spaces. Holds up traffic. And why is it that folks who back in seem to need to take 2-3 runs at the spot before "getting it right"? And then when they leave the spot, since they are not backing up, there are no taillights warning you someone is about to pull out. It seems more dangerous than simply pulling in.
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I am one of those people. The reason is safety.

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Most of the time I try for a spot that I can just pull straight out of without any reverse gear at all. DW is very good at this because for a year or so her car didn't have a reverse gear. Well, not one that worked anyway.
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I was referring to "perpendicular" parking such as is done in most parking lots. And I thought Walt made a nice defense of backing in. But I still maintain it is inefficient for people who are waiting for such "backers" to park, and for whom no brake or back-up lights warn that a car is about to enter the roadway. I find that pulling into the spot is more efficient and more considerate of other drivers.
Another one here that backs into perpendicular parking spaces, for all the reasons Walt describes.

Montecfo, I can assure you this inconveniences no other drivers, as I rarely back in when another car is behind me. In the few cases another car is there, I signal clearly. If they are so clueless as to not notice what I am doing and start to pull into the same spot I'm already backing into, I just move along and forget it. Parking lots are treacherous places, no need to add to life's frustrations.
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