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Old 07-14-2005, 01:49 PM   #61
 
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Since this thread has been almost completely hi-jacked (hence, no guilt) mebbe you can explain.* What gives rise to all the pro-gun passion?* If I lived in a rural area where I might need to defend myself from wandering christian evangelicals, yeah, I would probably purchase a firearm.* Maybe more than one since they seem to travel in packs.* But since I reside in barely gentrified outpost within a northeast ghetto where the natural law states that only african teenagers will carry handguns, I choose not to own.*

Regardless of my decision to own or not to own, the eye-bulging passion of the NRA types--i.e. Charton Heston bellowing, voice quivering, "the only way they will take my gun when they pry it out of my cold, dead hands..." blah, blah--completely escape me.* Someone clue me in.*

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Liberal with guns here - or at least blue collar - one of my departures from my party.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:11 PM   #62
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There is a county in Florida that forces you to carry a handgun?* More facts please.*
It was in the news several years ago. The criminals split (or at least curtailed their criminal activities) since they knew almost everyone they encountered would be packing.
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Heston is one of the types I'd be tempted to shoot - if'en I caught him trespasing - him being a Republican and all that.

I remember 1967 in a little corner of SW Washington(no names please) when they closed down the best whorehouse around(mainly for loggers) and some dam civil rights lawyer made us actually count Republican votes instead of writing in the traditional number. Some strange things can trigger one's 'hot button' - Republicans should NOT be allowed to vote - period!!!

But - nowadays - being old and mellow - being the blue marble in a bucket of red ones at the doughnut shop is more fun.

Besides - the SO voted for Bush - discression is good.
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And And - blue gas - is it true is some places they used to put dye in gas(non- taxed) to be used for non road purposes

Ag and gas for fishermen.
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They're a cloth version of a collapsible panniers except they don't get bolted to the rack. These are sold only at Nashbar.com but I suspect that there are similar versions out there.
Yes, I got one similar to that last year for my birthday.* Maybe I'll buy a second one to have more balance on the bike.* But even two of them would not let me carry a gun case of beer in them.
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Well, anyone who has been on the internet for longer than twenty minutes is sick to tears of gun discussions.* That said, my question concerning the emotional component that some owners have is quite serious.* To me it is just an appliance.* Like a cordless drill.* If I need to drill a hole, I'll buy a drill.* If I need to hang some wallboard, I'll buy a philips driver bit.* If I need to drill a hole in someone's skull, I'll buy a gun.* If I want to see that skull explode, I'll buy hollow-headed bullets.* I just can't see popping a woody over either.

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Since we are on guns, John Lott, an economist, wrote a book some years ago entitled More Guns, Less Crime. He proported to show that increases in gun ownership reduced crime in various areas.

He spends a lot of time defending his thesis.

He is criticized extensively by the other "side". See Tim Lambert's website and the Wikipedia entry regarding Lott .



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Well, anyone who has been on the internet for longer than twenty minutes is sick to tears of gun discussions. That said, my question concerning the emotional component that some owners have is quite serious. To me it is just an appliance. Like a cordless drill. If I need to drill a hole, I'll buy a drill. If I need to hang some wallboard, I'll buy a philips driver bit. If I need to drill a hole in someone's skull, I'll buy a gun. If I want to see that skull explode, I'll buy hollow-headed bullets. I just can't see popping a woody over either.
My hypothesis is that guns are a way of showing dominence and power.
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If I need to drill a hole in someone's skull, I'll buy a gun.* If I want to see that skull explode, I'll buy hollow-headed bullets.* I just can't see popping a woody over either.
No need to buy extra bullets for head explodin, just take out yer buck knife (you do have a buck knife right?) : and cut an X on the business part of that round. It'll tumble real good.
Bring yer bullets and a six pack over sometime and we'll get yah fixed up!
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Yep

Their emotional symbolism hit's all kinds of hot buttons here in the good old USA.

I remember in the 70's - me and the SO were out ratting the streets in a heh, heh 'good' part of Nassau when we observed a couple guys ready to go at it(with fists). A policeman walks up(unarmed) whips out his ticket book - gives them a stern lecture and a ticket.

Hmmm - the remark was made "this sure isn't Bourbon Street."
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It was in the news several years ago.* The criminals split (or at least curtailed their criminal activities) since they knew almost everyone they encountered would be packing.*
Color me skeptical.
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My hypothesis is that guns are a way of showing dominence and power.
Martha, you spelled 'dominence' wrong. But I concur: The more you are obsessed with guns, the more powerless you feel. That's why I always prefer talking about politics: It makes me feel even less powerless. I think.

So, has my message editing skill improved?
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You still can't do the quotes dear.
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My hypothesis is that guns are a way of showing dominence and power.* *
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Martha, you spelled 'dominence' wrong.* But I concur:* The more you are obsessed with guns, the more powerless you feel.* That's why I always prefer* talking about politics:* It makes me feel even less powerless.* I think.

So, has my message editing skill improved?*
Well, this is wrong in my case. I favor private ownership of just about
all weapons short of WMDs. Yet, no one would suggest that I feel powerless.
To the contrary, I automatically think I can dominate and control
just about everything (egomania). In other words, Arm Everyone! Fine with me.
I would rather arm my fellow citizens than give any more power to government.
Regardless, I ALWAYS think I will come out on top. It's genetic.
I am part of the "gun culture" and proud of it.

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Color me skeptical.
It makes sense though. If the bad guys can't tell who is "packin' heat"
it's bound to make them think twice.

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My hypothesis is that guns are a way of showing dominence and power.* *
My hypothesis is that becoming an attorney is a way of showing
dominance and power.

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It makes sense though.* If the bad guys can't tell who is "packin' heat"
it's bound to make them think twice.

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Trouble is, so many of the bad guys are not capable of thinking once let alone twice.
Education system is letting us down again
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Yes, I got one similar to that last year for my birthday. Maybe I'll buy a second one to have more balance on the bike. But even two of them would not let me carry a gun case of beer in them.
Here are the bag dimensions
Length --------- 12-1/4"
Height --------- 10"
Width ---------- 8-1/2"
I think 1 bag could handle the volume but maybe not the weight but I'm sure 2 would have no problem.

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It makes sense though.* If the bad guys can't tell who is "packin' heat"
it's bound to make them think twice.

JG
So following your logic, premubaly the safest place on planet is the middle of a drug ghetto where everyone carries a gun. The problem, in civilian terms, of the pro-gun "Mutual Assured Destruction" Theory is that it is completely wrong. As a principle it is fundamentally flawed.
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The problem, in civilian terms, of the pro-gun "Mutual Assured Destruction" Theory is that it is completely wrong. As a principle it is fundamentally flawed.
Maybe it doesn't work so well with guns, but MAD worked pretty well with nuclear weapons for about 40 years.

Or maybe it was Dr. Strangelove. ("Hey! No fighting in the War Room!")

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Martha, you spelled 'dominence' wrong.
1. Correcting your spouse's spelling.
2. Correcting it in public.
3. Correcting anything about your spouse, in public OR in private.

Just how long have you been married, "Apocalypse"? (Quite the apt poster handle in this context.) And how much longer do you care to go on living? I guess Martha doesn't own a gun (because you still seem to be posting) but I'm sure she knows a lot of financially desperate gun owners who'll go to great lengths for cash...

Even Trombone Al wouldn't correct his spouse's spelling!
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