Hum, I wonder if there is really something to this article Americans Retire Later, but Keep Sharp Longer - Real Time Economics - WSJ
Hum, I wonder if there is really something to this article Americans Retire Later, but Keep Sharp Longer - Real Time Economics - WSJ
I'm not sure why "work" is considered to be a better cognitively-stimulating activity than just about anything else offering fulfillment, autonomy, and complexity.Researchers have long suspected that to be true, because people who read, play bridge and do crosswords tend to stay more mentally acute as the age than people who do not. But there’s a problem figuring out what causes what. Is it engaging in intellectually stimulating activities that leads to better cognitive performance in old age? Or is it that people with better cognitive skills are drawn to read, play bridge and do crosswords?
Ah, this article may be true; ...is probably true. But, alas, It's too late, I'm out, retired at 60.
Refresh me, what did the article say??
I'm much happier solving problems and challenges that benefit me directly, as opposed to the outside motivation of the boss dropping by with a thorny problem that he doesn't understand, but I'm supposed to solve for him by COB.Keeping up with my budget and investments, deciding if I want a frosty coffee drink or beer in the afternoon can make my brain twirl.....
I do disagree!For those who have argued that their non-work activities are more engaging than a second career I'd offer this. Work (especially from a second career) is going to force us to deal with new challenges of all sorts, which I'd expect to be more mentally stimulating. It's a difference between busy for busy's sake - and staying (mentally) active.
Retirees can certainly keep themselves busy with other activities, but it's all too easy to avoid mental challenges, which I'd expect to be significantly less mentally stimulating. My parents have been retired for 28 years and they keep themselves very busy, but they won't do anything they don't want to do, and they aren't mentally challenged as a result. It shows in their behavior.
Feel free to disagree...
Not to patronize you, but I think you're very much the exception based on reading your posts over the years. And not to pander to this audience, but this audience is probably not representative of the mainstream either. So many in this audience can do well with either 1) or 2).I do disagree!
I think that there is a big assumption in your argument, that it is human nature to avoid mental challenges. I think that that is true for some people, but by no means for all. And I think for some folks, mental stimulation is the main driver of their activities. I have observed that there are folks who are intellectually curious, and folks who are not. Those who are seem to be naturally motivated to learn continually.
Audrey
Well, I do agree that this board is exceptional - the fact is there just aren't that many ERs! If there were, I would meet more day-to-day as I spend a lot of time around retirees, and the early ones are very rare.Not to patronize you, but I think you're very much the exception based on reading your posts over the years. And not to pander to this audience, but this audience is probably not representative of the mainstream either. So many in this audience can do well with either 1) or 2).
However in the mainstream population that we're all (hopefully) still engaged, intellectual laziness (avoiding mental challenges) is not uncommon IMO. Those who think mindlessly watching television to keep up with celebrity gossip most of the day is living, are but one example. And for them, I believe 1) is the better choice. Ironically, most of them would choose 2).
I guess my post targets those who seem to promote that all work is something to escape from as soon as possible. Anyone who believes there is no work that can provide enjoyment/fulfillment/personal satisfaction, is avoiding their own role in the bad work experience IMO. Stated more directly, as long as you can do it, enjoyable work is healthier than outright leisure for most people, FI or not. Most people don't find their calling, many don't even try, they just want to escape to retirement.
I humbly stand by my position for the population at large. And there are some posters here who seem to relish in having no schedule, no challenges, etc. - entirely their right, but maybe not good for their long term mental health.
If we're going to compare our retirements to our parents' lives then I'm just going to surrender myself right now to the Soylent Green Recycling, Inc. customer-service desk.Work (especially from a second career) is going to force us to deal with new challenges of all sorts, which I'd expect to be more mentally stimulating. Learning new skills, mastering new tasks, dealing with personal relationships other than those we choose is mentally challenging and should more often than not keep the mental works healthy. It's a difference between busy for busy's sake and doing only what we're already comfortable with - and staying (mentally) active.
Retirees can certainly keep themselves busy with other activities, but it's all too easy to avoid mental challenges, which I'd expect to be significantly less mentally stimulating. And I seriously doubt most of these busy retirees would ever be able to objectively recognize whether they are mentally challenged in themselves. My parents have been retired for 28 years and they keep themselves very busy, but they won't do anything they don't want to do, and they aren't mentally challenged as a result. It shows in their behavior.