SumDay
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Five years ago my dad passed and left me with eight Promissory Notes for houses he flipped and owner financed. In some of my other posts, I've stated "If you love your children, you won't leave them real estate."
I probably sound like an ingrate, but he died at the beginning of the housing/mortgage collapse, and believe me, I didn't get a bailout from Uncle Sam. Three houses have been abandoned or foreclosed on, and I sold them outright to other investors at about a 50% loss, but they're off my back now.
The remaining five are the cream of the crop, relatively speaking. Two are almost never late, the other 3 have chronic timely payment issues. I'll be honest: I have never charged a late fee because I feel sorry for these people. They will never, ever know how to manage their money. I've offered to take $99 off their house payment if they show me the Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University completion certificate. Taking this class would conflict with drinking beer and getting tattoos and piercings, so of course none of them have taken me up on it.
Let me assure you, none of their house payments are very much, all are well less than $1K a month, so it's not like my dad gouged them. The interest rate is 8%, which I think is high, but then I have a great credit score.
They always have an excuse why they can't pay on time. Most times their account is overdrawn because they have so many overdraft fees, which causes a chain of more bouncing and fees. They don't keep track of their own checking account info, they just look on line to see how much money they have in the bank.
By charging them late fees on their house payments, my goal would be to "teach" them that paying on time saves them money. I'm not sure they can be taught. One of them told me that he had over $300 in bank fees last month.
For example, they never pay their county property taxes on time, and consequently they pay 30 - 40% more before the very last deadline, due to more fees and interest.
Would you charge them late fees? I feel like I'm trying to get blood out of a very depleted turnip.
P.S. And yes, I have explored selling the promissory notes. After their credit scores were checked, none of the 10+ companies I approached were even remotely interested. I tell ya, my dad could sure pick 'em..... Really, I think it was as much a ministry for him, as it was a retirement plan.
I probably sound like an ingrate, but he died at the beginning of the housing/mortgage collapse, and believe me, I didn't get a bailout from Uncle Sam. Three houses have been abandoned or foreclosed on, and I sold them outright to other investors at about a 50% loss, but they're off my back now.
The remaining five are the cream of the crop, relatively speaking. Two are almost never late, the other 3 have chronic timely payment issues. I'll be honest: I have never charged a late fee because I feel sorry for these people. They will never, ever know how to manage their money. I've offered to take $99 off their house payment if they show me the Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University completion certificate. Taking this class would conflict with drinking beer and getting tattoos and piercings, so of course none of them have taken me up on it.
Let me assure you, none of their house payments are very much, all are well less than $1K a month, so it's not like my dad gouged them. The interest rate is 8%, which I think is high, but then I have a great credit score.
They always have an excuse why they can't pay on time. Most times their account is overdrawn because they have so many overdraft fees, which causes a chain of more bouncing and fees. They don't keep track of their own checking account info, they just look on line to see how much money they have in the bank.
By charging them late fees on their house payments, my goal would be to "teach" them that paying on time saves them money. I'm not sure they can be taught. One of them told me that he had over $300 in bank fees last month.
For example, they never pay their county property taxes on time, and consequently they pay 30 - 40% more before the very last deadline, due to more fees and interest.
Would you charge them late fees? I feel like I'm trying to get blood out of a very depleted turnip.
P.S. And yes, I have explored selling the promissory notes. After their credit scores were checked, none of the 10+ companies I approached were even remotely interested. I tell ya, my dad could sure pick 'em..... Really, I think it was as much a ministry for him, as it was a retirement plan.