Non-financial preparation for ER

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Hello, DH and I plan to retire later this year. We are not relocating and have a fairly new home. We have spent loads of time running scenarios, meeting with a financial advisor, etc. so we are confident we are financially ready. We are wondering for those already in ER, what do you wish you had done before ER to prepare (other than financial preparation)?


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Nothing for me, but I'll admit that I have been lucky. I did virtually nothing in preparation for retirement non-financially. I joined our local country club and met a number of retirees who play golf regularly. As a result, I now play with a group of 3-4 foursomes on Tuesday mornings at the club and a traveling group of 5-7 foursomes who play at courses within 1 1/2 hours on Thursdays and another group that plays a mixed couples scramble on Sunday afternoons. These groups have opened up some other things in that we now frequently socialize with a number of these people... dinner, cards, dominos, etc.
 
I've heard it said that you not only retire from something, but you should also retire *to* something.

Think about what you want to do with or without your spouse in a typical day / week. Do you want to try a new hobby? Volunteer someplace? Start a new business? Work part time? Spend more time with family or friends?

You don't need to nail down a schedule yet, but have some ideas of what you'd like to do with the additional time you'll have.

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Hello, DH and I plan to retire later this year. We are not relocating and have a fairly new home. We have spent loads of time running scenarios, meeting with a financial advisor, etc. so we are confident we are financially ready. We are wondering for those already in ER, what do you wish you had done before ER to prepare (other than financial preparation)?
Nothing, really. Life after work is different that what I expected, I was viewing retirement through "work-colored glasses" which skewed the choices I was making. I'd say give yourself some time to recover and get some balance back into your life.

There is one thing - in retrospect, it might have been better to not tell some family members that I was retiring, because it somehow led them to conclude that my time was now their's for the asking.
 
......I'd say give yourself some time to recover and get some balance back into your life.............

This. Retirement is something that I needed to grow into, not like a work related flow chart where one jumps in at the beginning and proceeds to follow the steps. Give yourself time to discover what makes you happy (or unhappy), now, then proceed accordingly.
 
You might read some books on the subject to get some perspective - Ernie Zelinski's The Joy of Not Working and How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free come to mind.

I overcommitted to volunteer activities at the beginning, but otherwise things have gone really well.
 
Nothing, really. Life after work is different that what I expected, I was viewing retirement through "work-colored glasses" which skewed the choices I was making. I'd say give yourself some time to recover and get some balance back into your life.

+1

First of all, congratulations on your upcoming retirement! :flowers:

I was a little concerned as my own retirement approached because other than the financial, I hadn't really prepared at all. Everyone at work told me I would get terribly bored.

But you know what? It all worked out just fine and I haven't been bored once. I think it helps to not pre-plan a lot of activities for the first few months of retirement so that you have the time MichaelB is referring to. All I had planned was to get out of the house once each day, so that I didn't turn into a complete slug. :D

MichaelB is so right that life after work is way different than expected. It's better, really. Among other differences, my perception is that there's a lot less internal and external pressure for me to accomplish praise-worthy objectives, for example.
 
Didn't do anything. I just resigned at work and started an endless vacation.
 
I am pretty much where you are now. My date is next March. So far, I have: started joining social groups that share my interests that I did not have time for before; told my wife that all the outdoor projects that she wants to do will wait until next year; given some thought about converting my primary hobby (photography, photo editing, photo books) into a small side business. I also think we will do more travelling, especially local culture and film festivals, state parks, and photo excursions.
 
A job does give you a certain structure and framework. Depending on your personal situation it can also provide a level of identity.

Many people get disoriented after the 'I'm on vacation' period is no longer relevant.

Regardless of what you intend to do upon retirement, my advice would be to go easy, not jump into any one thing straight off (or at least something you can't easily back out of) and see what happens in 10-12 months.

You have 30-40 years of dust that needs to settle.

What I planned to doing in RE and what I am doing are now two very different things.

Enjoy, have fun and take your time.
 
Didn't do anything. I just resigned at work and started an endless vacation.

Yep. As I told my doctor today, being "retired", at least for me, is just a seven day weekend.

So, if I can offer anything, it is to just plan on doing whatever you want whenever you want, without any pressure. You'll see.

_B
 
You might read some books on the subject to get some perspective - Ernie Zelinski's The Joy of Not Working and How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free come to mind.

+1

Both books highly recommended here too.

Also agree that you should cut yourself some slack. You'll figure it out, most likely. It will probably take some time though.

I've been free, in the wild of ER for a year and change and thought I was really settling in. This week I've had a bit of a tough time on some of the non-financial aspects, ie what the hell am I doing with my life.

So, DW and went for a brisk bike ride and a nice meal. Now the world is a wonderful place again! Just needed to get outside and move... I'm now learning to address what I need, not what I need to do for someone to pay me. It's the precious gift of FIRE.
 
Congratulations on your almost retirement. :dance:

When I pulled the plug, I was worried about going from very long working hours to zero working hours cold turkey so I continued to do some part time consulting (which I still do - the arrangement works for me) and made sure I had a few things to do (volunteer work, part time study, writing a novel among others). Retirement is great but everyone is different and will have different ways of making the most of it.
 
Thank you all for the great perspective. I am SO excited about having time to figure out what I want to do each day. Think I'll take your advice and not plan on anything too intense and see how life evolves. I can't wait!!!


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You might read some books on the subject to get some perspective - Ernie Zelinski's The Joy of Not Working and How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free come to mind.

I overcommitted to volunteer activities at the beginning, but otherwise things have gone really well.
+2. Completing the Get-A-Life-Tree exercise gave me a lot of peace of mind re: the non-financial aspects of (early) retirement. I probably couldn't have pulled the trigger and walked away from a very well paying career otherwise. To me, the financial was the simple (but not easy) part.
 
You might read some books on the subject to get some perspective - Ernie Zelinski's The Joy of Not Working and How to Retire Happy, Wild, and Free come to mind.

I overcommitted to volunteer activities at the beginning, but otherwise things have gone really well.

To OP - above +1, from start to finish.

Totally over-volunteered at first, in my fear of not having enough to do to fill my time. Quit them all within months because I quickly found myself resenting other people having any input on how I spent my time. I did eventually find myself back to volunteering, but it was several years down the road, after I had fully and completely decompressed.

For me, the ER part of FIRE'ing was a process that took several years. Many emotions during the first few weeks - elation, brief bout of depression as I struggled to fill those precious 40 hours of work time, then a growing sense of satisfaction as I found things to become involved in, or to simply enjoy.

Ernie Zelinski's Tree of Life exercise, featured in both books above, was a real game changer. Though I struggled initially to come up with his required minimum of 50 activities, I think I ended the exercise at around 65 items. So, it was pretty exciting to re-do the exercise in Year Five of FIRE, and come up with 150+ activities without really trying. A testament to how much I have grown and developed since Day One.
 
I overcommitted to volunteer activities at the beginning, but otherwise things have gone really well.

+1 Got a reading tutor parttime job and joined a church right after retiring because I thought I should. That was 6 months ago and I ended up quitting them both. What a relief.
 
I've heard it said that you not only retire from something, but you should also retire *to* something.

Think about what you want to do with or without your spouse in a typical day / week. Do you want to try a new hobby? Volunteer someplace? Start a new business? Work part time? Spend more time with family or friends?

You don't need to nail down a schedule yet, but have some ideas of what you'd like to do with the additional time you'll have.

+1. I had no problem with this, as I dreamed for years about all of the things I would do with my free time in retirement (I have a lot of hobbies and interests). After 6 years of retirement, I find that I am busier than ever, but it's great because I set my own schedule, and most of the things I do are enjoyable.
 
Thank you all for the great perspective. I am SO excited about having time to figure out what I want to do each day. Think I'll take your advice and not plan on anything too intense and see how life evolves. I can't wait!!!

That is exactly what I did. Initially I was still waking up at 7am, so I started to go to daily 8am Mass. After a year my normal wake up time is now 10am. I am enjoying the extra time in bed. I suspect that by this time next year I'll be doing completely different things than I am doing today. While I am "always busy" I am busy doing things I want to do. When I don't want to do those things anymore I'll do another thing I want to do. I feel like a kid on summer vacation. Life is wonderful and God is Good
 
Since we didn't "plan" for our retirement (serious illness, at the time, but with full recovery) no preparation per se... but recovery time was spent, creating literally dozens of large green spreadsheet, listing every conceivable situation for where we would (could, at the time) live, and what kind of lifestyle we wished for or might be able to afford.

Erring on the side of long term financial safety, we carved a possible pathway of frugality, but always with the hope of not having to return to the working world.
As a major consideration, even then, healthcare was a major concern (age 53, and with no company plan).

We planned possible details, different inflation rates, buying cars, major unforseen expense reserve plans, and varying life expectancies. Three months of working out different plans, with lots of homework in between. All of this because we didn't trust the Financial Advisor that we tried , who insisted that we needed an extra $200K, which would have meant many more years of saving back in1989. The group that he represented provided us with a glossy 20 page analysis of charts and math, so it meant taking apart the pieces and looking at our personal needs and wants.

Did all the planning work out as expected? Of course not, but when changes occurred, we were prepared to adjust, and over the long haul, arrived at the same goals, with no stress.

Luck maybe, but despite our original first 5 year plan to live in our campground home (park model on a lake), we spent the first 15 years being IL/FL snowbirds. Simple changes, like not buying the planned new cars, and skipping elaborate vacation plans, kept everything in balance. Buying IBonds when the limit was $60K/person/year, and the rates were relatively high in the early 2000's, kept us on a reasonable investment path, though not leading to wealth, avoided the mistakes that I knew I'd make if I tried on my own.

Probably luck, but FWIW, psychologically safe and we'd do it again. :)
 
Wish I would have known to plan for the reality of "how fast" my energy, strength and endurance levels would fall off so soon after retirement. Seems to be accelerating each year. Had I known that, I probably would not have allowed the OMY syndrome to creep in the last few years I was working. Last year I doubled my planned WR and am doing things while I still can "and want to". I don't put off traveling, hobbies, spending, etc. Life is short and tomorrow may be too late.
 
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One thing I learned I should have done was a HELOC. You can do it afterwards but for us it was a PIA.

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I started preparing around 2002 when I started cutting back on work hours. DW would not let me retire years before her, so I cut back eventually to 1 work day a week in 2013 and 2014 when we retired. This allowed me to practice my retirement lifestyle, travel, and hobbies for several years before I fully retired.
 
I enrolled in a boat building course through the Hawaii Community College and was going to do that for two years while waiting for my DW to retire. Unfortunately, there were not enough enrollments for the year so I was dis-enrolled and had to find something else to do. I did have the sail boat to refurbish so I just did it one my own. (With help from my father). Two years later my DW retired and we moved to Texas. Now, I am going on three years retired and she is approaching six months. She is still asking me what my plans are for the day and when I tell her nothing she gives me a shocked look. She still maintains a "to-do" list and doesn't quite get that you don't "HAVE" to do anything in retirement. I can go days without accomplishing anything and still feel good about myself.
 
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