Hey Nords! I'm paying $16.77 every 2 weeks for dental insurance through my employer & I found a dental clinic that accepts whatever the insurance company pays as full payment. So far this year, I've had 2 root canals with crowns, and a wisdom tooth pulled, and have paid $0 besides the insurance premium! How's that for "frugality"?
Ouch. That's a great deal.
I wish I had a better understanding of who's vulnerable to root canals and other problems, and who's not. I can't tell whether my spouse and I have lucky genetics on our side or if our dental health is a result of our daily maintenance. Only one way to find out, and I'm not willing to stop the maintenance!
As far as phones, we dropped the land line several years ago, never missed it. We don't have smart phones, and don't feel like we need them. We do have Verizon, and most likely will be cutting back to a pay as you go service soon. The Verizon contract is over. We've had Trac Phone in the past, and it worked fine for our needs. Not sure what's out there now in the PAYG world, but I'm about to check into it.
Our landline will be replaced by a two-year-old WalMart low-end LG cell phone that's going to sit on our kitchen counter. The key was realizing what we don't use and just simplifying our lives. It was precipitated by our phone company refusing to fix their broken DSL line, and as a result they're going to lose a landline customer as well.
We dropped our cable tv awhile back, but in all honestly, after I retired, we'll probably get it back again. I miss my favorite shows...
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The jury's still out on that one at Hale Nords. Spouse is happy with the status quo and I'm reluctant to mess with it. If we ever have to upgrade our ancient Series 2 TiVos and analog cable then we'd consider Hulu or Roku, but HGTV is really the only sticking point.
Thanks for all the great insight! I hope I didn't come off as defensive because I certainly didn't mean to do so. Nords, thanks for the reply! I just read your book about two weeks ago. It took me all of about two hours...I couldn't put it down.
Thanks! Glad it's helping.
You don't sound defensive, but the forum's posters have been burned on this many times by other budget reviews.
Nords, I like the idea of not paying for dental on a monthly basis and will probably go that route once I embark on this semi-retirement journey. Unfortunately, my 16 year old will get braces in September and I will need this insurance for about 18 more months at least as they pay 50%.
I think the key is negotiating with the orthodontist's billing agent. We paid for our daughter's ortho out of pocket, and when we offered up-front cash (instead of insurance payments over two years) we got a substantial discount. That was cheaper than the cost of the insurance (and the deductions) and the whole office was a lot happier to see our daughter.
Again, don't want to sound defensive at all, but there were many post about my budget having no fat in it and while i agree with that, I am not trying to live strictly off of my pension. The idea was to generate maybe $20,000 a year with my wife and I working part time or even me working full time at a very low stress job until I'm 55. If we can't live on 50-55k a year with two people, I believe thats an issue. At 55 I feel that 100k in savings is adequate when used in conjunction with my pension until age 59 1/2. I would then have another 100K to use until SS at 62. So I figure if I use $1500 a month from 55 to 59 1/2 thats $81,000 over the 4 1/2 years leaving me a 19k cushion still in my savings. At 59 1/2 I now have another 100k plus the 19k to really last me the rest of my life as I and the wife will receive around 2k a month combined in SS and would anticipate using very little of our savings from 62 until we die.
Aside from my not having enough to fully retire on my pension alone, am I off base with this plan to "semi-retire" and utilize my savings/ roth and SS at the above mentioned ages?
The biggest concern is the lack of a safety factor and needing to track your expenses very closely. There's quite a bit more detail on frugal living at forums like MrMoneyMustache.com, Dollar Stretcher (Stretcher.com), and Simple Living.
You need to take a hard look at your pension and your taxes, too. For example you'll want to protect your spouse with Survivor Benefits Program, but can you afford to give up 6.5% of your pension to pay for it? Your pension may not be subject to state tax, but 12 states still do tax that federal income. You also need to estimate your federal taxes in retirement.
You're contemplating Social Security at age 62. Every year you can delay gives you a higher payout (assuming you live long enough) but that also depletes your savings. It's "easy" to contemplate that plan now, but it's a much harsher reality when you're 61 years old.
The basic plan can work but the margins are pretty thin, and one financial oversight (or casualty) can throw the whole plan out the window. Ultimately it comes down to significant spending cuts or working more hours in semi-retirement.