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Old 07-10-2012, 07:16 AM   #41
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Much like paraphrasing, the FIFY function leaves me wondering why the commenting poster didn't simply say what he/she feels in his/her own words instead of twisting/changing/manipulating what the original poster said. Yes, there is something snarky or deceitful about manipulating what another has said to make your point. Better to just directly say what your point is.

Admittedly, a number of the FIFY posts are successfully humorous with no detected intention of being a back-handed dig at the original poster. Some are less successful.
I agree. I would never do a "FIFY" and I recall the first time it was done to one of my posts I had to look up "FIFY" and learn what the heck it meant. I found it a bit snarky even if done in a friendly way. If I disagree with something, I come out and say it. If someone were to do a FIFY, I would prefer the original quote were left intact because otherwise I have to find the original quote which could be many posts back (even on a previous page) to see what the FIFY poster had changed it FROM.
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I actually think the use of FIFY and the overstrike even within one's own post (which really slows down my comprehension of what the heck a post is about--am I supposed to read those overstruck sections?) is sort of a fad, although e-r.org may be late to the party as I don't see it used any more anywhere else, and will blow over soon. Who can't remember when LOL was all the rage.

[mod hat]Again, if a post is over the top snarky whether because it's a FIFY or just meanspirited, anyone can report it and the snarkiness will be addressed.[/mod hat]

It's rarely used for snark here, and what is unsuccessful humor to some people is fun to read for others and vice versa (whether it's a FIFY or just someone thinking they are being funny in their writing or what imho is the overuse of emoticons). It's almost always clear to me (not as a mod) when someone else's post has been quoted and FIFYed.

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I enjoy the FIFYs. I will miss the humor if they are banned.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:14 PM   #44
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While I don't care for them usually, I wouldn't think they should be banned...should be looked at on a case by case basis if reported in my opinion (which is how it is done now I think)
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:10 PM   #45
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While I don't care for them usually, I wouldn't think they should be banned...should be looked at on a case by case basis if reported in my opinion (which is how it is done now I think)
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I think that's the intention. If one leaves the original quote in strikeout text the original context is still understood for the most part. Now if one is used in a way that is abusive, or intentionally makes the original author appear to have said something they didn't say, or if someone objects to how their quote was FIFY'd (for lack of a better term), these can always be reported individually and can be reviewed on a case by case basis.
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I think that's the intention. If one leaves the original quote in strikeout text the original context is still understood for the most part. Now if one is used in a way that is abusive, or intentionally makes the original author appear to have said something they didn't say, or if someone objects to how their quote was FIFY'd (for lack of a better term), these can always be reported individually and can be reviewed on a case by case basis.
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Sounds reasonable to me Zig. All joking aside, I understand why many folks wouldn't like having their messages messed with. Seems like most are OK with this if it's clear how the message has been "FIFY'd" and it's not done in a mean spirited or offensive manner.
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otherwise I have to find the original quote which could be many posts back
Actually, you can just click on the little blue box with the arrow in it, next to the name of the person being quoted (see above - I just did it with your post), and it will take you directly to the original post. No hunting or searching required.
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I had a few of my posts adjusted by fify. They were truly funny and appreciated as good humor.

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I think the FIFYs are funny.

The first time I saw "FIFY", I didn't recognize the acronym and thought the "FI" meant something else (not Financially Independent).
I couldn't figure out 2 words for the "FY" part that would go along with my gutter-minded interpretation of "FI".
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I think this thread is a great example of why posters leave discussion boards.
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Was my My joke was really that bad?!!
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I think this thread is a great example of why posters leave discussion boards.
You need to be more specific, is it the pro FIFY or con FIFY that would result in posters leaving or can we ascribe equal weight to your statement
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I would rather get rid of posts that say nothing but "+1", to be honest. No new information or opinion.
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I would rather get rid of posts that say nothing but "+1", to be honest. No new information or opinion.
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess I'm not surprised at the range of responses.

However, with a bit of reflection, I think I have a better handle on what triggered me to start this thread. The moderator job often involves subjective judgment calls (and the same for any member flagging a post). So this seemed like a case where the subjectivity could be eliminated completely - as I said,
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'Quote' means 'quote' - right?
. It just seemed like it would keep things simple to set a rule that the quote box should not be used to mis-quote, parody, paraphrase, or otherwise alter or misrepresent what someone said. Period.

It's not about not having a sense of humor, or being wound too tightly (and to be honest, I think those responses are a bit guilty of 'the pot calling the kettle black'). There are ways to do that without using a literal quote box. Just reserve the quote box for its intended purpose. Communication lapses occur even under the best conditions - misusing a word can't help.

At any rate, maybe this discussion has led people to be more aware that some posters have been offended by having themselves intentionally mis-quoted, and the joke isn't always as obvious as the author may think. So if people put a bit more thought into it, maybe this thread has served its purpose.

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Probably the same can be said of when someone extracts a snipet of what someone said and quotes it and then provides their own spin that fails to take into context the OPs full post or intent. In fact, I would think most would find that far more offensive than a FIFY type post which is generally meant to be humerous. Nevertheless, this is the internet so its always a bit hard to discern what an OP was actually thinking/intending, so misunderstandings are apt to happen, but we have great mods that keep us in line!
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess I'm not surprised at the range of responses.

However, with a bit of reflection, I think I have a better handle on what triggered me to start this thread. The moderator job often involves subjective judgment calls (and the same for any member flagging a post). So this seemed like a case where the subjectivity could be eliminated completely - as I said, . It just seemed like it would keep things simple to set a rule that the quote box should not be used to mis-quote, parody, paraphrase, or otherwise alter or misrepresent what someone said. Period.

It's not about not having a sense of humor, or being wound too tightly (and to be honest, I think those responses are a bit guilty of 'the pot calling the kettle black'). There are ways to do that without using a literal quote box. Just reserve the quote box for its intended purpose. Communication lapses occur even under the best conditions - misusing a word can't help.

At any rate, maybe this discussion has led people to be more aware that some posters have been offended by having themselves intentionally mis-quoted, and the joke isn't always as obvious as the author may think. So if people put a bit more thought into it, maybe this thread has served its purpose.

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