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Old 05-06-2016, 09:48 AM   #21
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Really cheap chocolate (which can be sold for a high price sometimes) to me tastes like crayons. I don't know how I know the *taste* of crayons - Maybe from my younger days? It tastes so bad to me that I refuse to swallow it.
That is low cacao, high fat chocolate. Often a fat is used other than cocoa butter. The flavor is all in the beans, and so is the cost. High fat, waxy textured chocolate is low in flavor because it has a low proportion of beans.

Some like that slightly burnt flavor, some don't. That flavor is mostly determined in how the beans are roasted.
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That is low cacao, high fat chocolate. Often a fat is used other than cocoa butter. The flavor is all in the beans, and so is the cost. High fat, waxy textured chocolate is low in flavor because it has a low proportion of beans.

Some like that slightly burnt flavor, some don't. That flavor is mostly determined in how the beans are roasted.
Really! I don't know why that makes it taste like crayons though...? You know those cheap truffles they sell in bulk in a box at Costco and other places that contain a lot of palm oil or coconut oil? They actually taste very good to me, but stuff like Russel Stovers and those Hawaiian macademia nut chocolate clusters? They are just so disgusting (crayon flavor) - they are a bit waxy as you mention. Maybe they use the same fat crayons are made of...
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Really! I don't know why that makes it taste like crayons though...? You know those cheap truffles they sell in bulk in a box at Costco and other places that contain a lot of palm oil or coconut oil? They actually taste very good to me, but stuff like Russel Stovers and those Hawaiian macademia nut chocolate clusters? They are just so disgusting (crayon flavor) - they are a bit waxy as you mention. Maybe they use the same fat crayons are made of...
I just looked it up - crayons contain paraffin wax! I just looked up copycat Russel Stover's recipes and they listed paraffin wax!!! How about that. (At least I wasn't crazy )
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I go through periods of chronic addiction to Sees Candy. Those of you in the western states know about Sees. Made in two factories (LA and SF I believe), their truffles are amazing. You might be able to order their choco from other states now via the internet. I've been a fan for 50+ years and their quality has not changed.
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I just looked it up - crayons contain paraffin wax! I just looked up copycat Russel Stover's recipes and they listed paraffin wax!!! How about that. (At least I wasn't crazy )
Only crazy folk enjoy Russel Stover's.
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I really like Hershey's Kisses but they DO taste like wax. I'll admit that when it comes to chocolate cheap or expensive is just fine by me. I wish I were more discriminating.

I also really love Reese's peanut butter cups and peanut M & M's. Again, poor taste.
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The paraffin doesn't surprise me. Look up the recipe for Buckeyes, which are a peanut butter center rolled in melted chocolate with a little paraffin. I assume the paraffin makes the chocolate a little more resistant to melting.

Many glossy candies are made with carnauba wax.
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I really like Hershey's Kisses but they DO taste like wax. I'll admit that when it comes to chocolate cheap or expensive is just fine by me. I wish I were more discriminating.

I also really love Reese's peanut butter cups and peanut M & M's. Again, poor taste.
My prior manager(a very nice human) used to send boxes of Hershey to his peer in the UK office. It was a lot of fun hearing just how bad Hershey is from the folks over there.

Of course I've eaten tons of it expecially the almond bars.
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I really like Hershey's Kisses but they DO taste like wax. I'll admit that when it comes to chocolate cheap or expensive is just fine by me. I wish I were more discriminating.

I also really love Reese's peanut butter cups and peanut M & M's. Again, poor taste.
I used to think Hershey's was decent until Belgian chocolate spoiled me. Now Hershey's seems granular, as if its sugar has not dissolved completely.
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I prefer Hershey's chocolates to many of the European chocolates that emphasize smoothness and creaminess over intense chocolate flavor. And I'm not at all into the hazelnuts that they seem to like to combine with chocolate. Just too bland. I like intense flavor.

And I like thick Chicago style pizza better than thin crispy Italian style pizza too. It's just a matter of taste, and a lot of that just stems from what you're used to.

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Every time I go to Trader Joe's, I pick a Ritter Sport Milk & Hazelnut at the checkout. Hey, it's right there and I can't resist.

Good thing I only buy one and the nearest Traders is 20 miles away -
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I picked up the chocolate and hazelnut habit in Europe. Along with chocolate and coffee I love the combination. You know who sells great European chocolate bars? Inexpensive and big? Aldi.
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I am not a carob fan. I do purchase carob chips, however, for home made dog biscuits. Recipe: 1/2 C peanut butter, 1/4 C warm water, 1/2 C mashed banana, 1 T honey, 1 egg, 1 3/4 C whole wheat flour, 1/2 C carob chips. Mix first five ingredients. Stir in 1 C of the flour. Stir in the chips. Stir in remaining flour, 1/4 C at a time. Refrigerate dough for 20 minutes, then roll into 1/4 inch slab and cut out cookie shapes. Bake 300 degrees for 30 minutes. Shut off oven, leaving cookies in the oven for a couple of hours.
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Bud Light is to beer as Velveeta is to cheese.
I've been buying this generic store brand velveeta from Kroger. The white cheese with Jalapenos in it. Very delicious on tacos and as a cheese dip.

Also like the finer cheeses too (brie, gorgonzola, blue cheese, gouda, havarti, fontina, etc).

As for chocolate, I've found the Schogetten chocolates at Aldi to be the best bang for the buck. I think they are still a buck for what would be marketed as a king size candy bar 3.5 oz / 100g. Instead of waxy chocolate-ish candy from Hersheys or similar, it's actually real chocolate.
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Marita, I recommend buying a Trader Joe's three-pack of both dark and milk chocolate bars (made in Belgium). Take a bite of dark and milk choc at the same time. Very nice. And cheap for good quality choco, something like $1.89 for a three-pack. They devilishly place them conveniently at the check-out counter display!
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The 3-packs are $1.79 here in Northern California. The dark one with almonds is my daily staple, along with a cuppa joe or tea.

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My prior manager(a very nice human) used to send boxes of Hershey to his peer in the UK office. It was a lot of fun hearing just how bad Hershey is from the folks over there.
Hersheys has never tasted very good to me. It's been so long since I ate it that I cannot remember enough to describe the taste, just that it struck me as not tasting very much like actual chocolate.
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Need to try TJ dark chocolate peanut butter cups. There the best! Especially cold.
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TJ Dark Chocolate covered Espresso Beans are good, too.
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I fell for that carob is as good as chocolate once about 30 years ago. Never again!
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Need to try TJ dark chocolate peanut butter cups. There the best! Especially cold.

Agree but I can't buy them anymore as I eat all of them within a day!


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