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Old 10-01-2016, 05:52 PM   #21
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FYI, I have been researching water filters lately and have seen several accounts of drinking alkaline water curing shingles, no personal experience with that however.

No, not possible. Shingles is a viral infection and will not respond to the pH of drinking water.
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I was extremely surprised when I got shingles, because I had never had chicken pox as a child, and I understood that was the essential first step.

The doc explained that many children get chicken pox with no symptoms at all, so that was obviously the case with me.

Excruciatingly painful, but only for a week or two. I guess I was lucky, because it was just my back and side.

I got the vaccine later, just to make sure any future episodes were mild. So far, so good.
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I trust my doctor. Over the past 15 years, he saved my pain a number of times and was always quick to prescribe the right remedy.

I am now 60. In my early 50s, he told me to get shots for Hep B (3), Hep A(2), shingles, rabies since I travel to Asia often. He said I am due for more shots at 65. I don't remember which, but I will take them when I am 65.
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The CDC says to wait 6-12 months after a shingles attack and then get the vaccine. I got shingles a month after I forgot to ask the doc for a shingles vaccine. Ick. Fortunately it was a very mild case on my forearm.
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Interesting on the post just above mine...


My sister got shingles and said she had waited too long to get the shot... from what she said, if you get in quickly they can give you the shot and it probably will not be as bad...


She did get it in her face... she still says that wind irritates her face and she had it maybe 8 or so years ago...
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DS had it on his back a few years ago at 28 yo. DW and I both had our shingles shots at 60.

Nemo, you've been through the wringer this year, hope your shingles resolve quickly, especially with respect to the eye.
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Nemo, you've been through the wringer this year, hope your shingles resolve quickly, especially with respect to the eye.
Scheduled to fly to Spain on Halloween..if I still look the way I do today I anticipate accolades from the flight crew for my authentic looking "Recently resurrected zombie who was subsequently involved in a motorcycle accident" costume.
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Nemo, Sorry about your shingles . I had them years ago on my arm & chest . Very painful !
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There's some confusion about getting "the shingles shot" (I assume people mean the preventative vaccine, when they say that), to lessen the effects once you got the shingles. So let's go to a reputable source:

Shingles Prevention - Mayo Clinic

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The Food and Drug Administration has approved the use of the varicella-zoster vaccine (Zostavax) to help prevent shingles. .... The shingles vaccine is used only as a prevention strategy and is not intended to treat people who currently have the disease. ...
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There's no cure for shingles, but prompt treatment with prescription antiviral drugs can speed healing and reduce your risk of complications. These medications include:

Acyclovir (Zovirax)
Valacyclovir (Valtrex)
Famciclovir (Famvir)
NOTE - those are all different from the vaccine (Zostavax).

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Shingles can cause severe pain, so your doctor also may prescribe:

Capsaicin cream
Anticonvulsants, such as gabapentin (Neurontin)
Tricyclic antidepressants, such as amitriptyline
Numbing agents, such as lidocaine, delivered via a cream, gel, spray or skin patch
Medications that contain narcotics, such as codeine
An injection including corticosteroids and local anesthetics
Shingles generally lasts between two and six weeks. Most people get shingles only once, but it is possible to get it two or more times
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Yes, shingles can recur and yes, a vaccine will make sense (after this episode is over - it's not going to do any good for the current infection).

BTW, sorry you have this happen, especially in the face/eye area must be extremely unpleasant - I had an episode on my chest/side and it was exquisitely painful for a week or two.
Euro-no disrespect but are you a doc? I am not but as a shingles survivor, (same area -forehead and around eyes-fortunately no damage to the eyes), I was told by my doc that the best antidote to preventing future cases of shingles is to have shingles. Shingles inoculates you against reoccurrences for several decades. When I asked my doc, why not get the shot, as added insurance, his response was there is always some danger to receiving any shot and in this case where you have just had the best innoculation(shingles itself) the risk is not worth the benefit.
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Scheduled to fly to Spain on Halloween..if I still look the way I do today I anticipate accolades from the flight crew for my authentic looking "Recently resurrected zombie who was subsequently involved in a motorcycle accident" costume.
Nemo; Good luck to you. I was in great pain with it on my face. I was in a foreign country when it happened. I did not go to the ER for 2-3 days as I thought it was the sun. When I did go and received the diagnosis and started the regimen it took another 5 days to abate but within a week I was 100%. During that 5 days though I was in agony and essentially laid in bed with what felt like a constant bad migraine. No fun. Feel better.
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Shingles inoculates you against reoccurrences for several decades.
This statement is not quite true. Having shingles lowers but does not eliminate, the risk of another bout. Over time, up to 6% of people have a recurrence. If you have immune deficiency, the risk is higher.

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-a...-come-back#1-2

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This statement is not quite true. Having shingles lowers but does not eliminate, the risk of another bout. Over time, up to 6% of people have a recurrence. If you have immune deficiency, the risk is higher.

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-a...-come-back#1-2

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Yeah, my sister has had it 3 times, although she said the 2nd and 3rd attacks were much less severe. At the times of the occurrences she was working a very stressful job and she has since been diagnosed with Lupus so maybe her immune system was suppressed.

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Sorry to hear about this, I hope you get better soon, and thanks for telling us about it. May encourage a few to get the vaccine. (DW and I got the vaccine when we reached 60).
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I had shingles 2 months after I turned 60. As soon as that episode was over, I got the vaccine, since they can reoccur. Now three years later, I occasionally get little tiny shingle-style pricks in various limbs, and they look like shingles (now that I know what they feel like), but they go away fairly quickly. I imagine that if I had not had the vaccine after my initial bout, I may have come up with a repeat case in the last year.
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And what happens when alkaline water hits the highly acid stomach acid? Hard to reason it could have any effect at all, it would be neutralized unless it was so alkaline that it burned out all the tissue in your throat on the way down (wanna drink lye anyone?)!



I bet those same sites claim alkaline water cures psoriasis, hep C, all forms of cancer, chronic fatigue syndrome, migraines, etc. That seems pretty typical of those sorts of claims.



edit - oooops, cross posted with Meadbh, who actually has significant credentials in this area!



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Euro-no disrespect but are you a doc? I am not but as a shingles survivor, (same area -forehead and around eyes-fortunately no damage to the eyes), I was told by my doc that the best antidote to preventing future cases of shingles is to have shingles. Shingles inoculates you against reoccurrences for several decades. When I asked my doc, why not get the shot, as added insurance, his response was there is always some danger to receiving any shot and in this case where you have just had the best innoculation(shingles itself) the risk is not worth the benefit.
No doubt a shingles episode will boost your immunity against future outbreaks. For some viral infections, this will be enough to basically provide life-long immunity against future infections/recurrence. For VZV (Varicella Zoster Virus), the virus that causes chickpox/shingles, this is NOT the case. That's why an additional vaccination (even after a shingles episode) can still provide additional benefit. Whether that additional benefit outweighs whatever risk you or your doctor perceive exists for getting the shot, only you and your doctor can decide.
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When I asked my doc, why not get the shot, as added insurance, his response was there is always some danger to receiving any shot and in this case where you have just had the best innoculation(shingles itself) the risk is not worth the benefit.
My doctor said the opposite, that the shot would help, even after my initial bout of shingles. Last month after I had minor shingles-like occurrence that kept me up at night (but went away quickly) I called my NP who once again confirmed for me that shingles can reoccur.

The reason I called the NP at all was because in my initial occurrence of shingles, I didn't go to the doctor until it was almost full blown (I had no idea what shingles were or felt like). The doctor said if I they could have started the meds earlier my outbreak might not have been as bad. So when I felt an attempted recurrence of shingles, I called right away, but in this case the 'outbreak' only lasted about 12 hours.
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Shingles are terrible, but if you have them on your head and they start creeping toward your eyes, it's especially dangerous. They can take your eyesight.

I saw my parents and my sister to be essential invalids for weeks and weeks with shingles. My wife and I sucked up the price and got the shot.

The DW got the shingles when we were spending February in Hawaii, and she didn't know it. Just felt like she was itching uncontrollably. She had some Neurotin with her that helped greatly. Had she not had the shot, she'd have been in trouble.
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