…bad?
Gang, I would appreciate any insight/experience/thoughts on 403(b) plans in general. Here's the scoop - Daughter #2 contacted me today to say she would like to start participating in her school district's 403(b) plan. Yes, she is a teacher, and she will begin her 4th year teaching this fall after graduating from college in 2003. My initial advice was - YES, DEFINITELY.
Yesterday afternoon while hardly working, I began to investigate 403(b) plans. I have had a 401(k) plan for over 14 years and have no experience with the the public sector version (or so I thought). Doing a simple Google search I found the following web sites; one a forum for non-profit retirement funds (403(b) and 457), which seems replete with horror story after horror story about how “bad” most school district 403(b) plans are.
http://bwise.ibforums.com/lofiversion/index.php/f2.html
Then there is this article from our local paper here in the Pittsburgh area last year which doesn’t instill much confidence either.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05237/559905.stm
I know I have a lot more investigating to do, with my daughter, as it appears you have to contact each of the companies authorized to provide a plan under the school district’s 403(b) plan.
I guess what I’m looking for is some general advice that, even with the potential pitfalls of a “bad” 403(b) plan, should we find the “best of the worst” and invest in that, or just chuck the whole 403(b) idea and have her invest after-tax income in a Roth IRA? I know that this answer will be dependent on what products are being offered, but I was thinking that maybe there aren’t any products worth it. By the way, her school district does offer a 457(b) plan that contains at least 5 mutual fund options, but has some sort of bizarre (at least to me) “warning” that if you pick this option then,
“If you elect to contribute 100 percent of your check to the 457(b) plan, you may do so. However, given the standard ‘priorities’ assigned to various deductions by the payroll system, the following deductions will NOT be taken: charitable contributions, dues, summer fund withholding if you are paid on a less-than-12-month basis and receive summer checks, and any secondary deposits to savings accounts at other banking institutions…”
If I wasn’t so trusting, I’d swear this was instituted by the 403(b) plan providers, since the 457(b) plan option was just instituted in 2004. At first I thought it meant your entire paycheck, but the plan limits the maximum yearly contribution to $15,000 plus COLA increases (beginning this year), so I don’t think any teacher in this district makes $15,000 per year. By the way, this school district has over 20,000 teachers, and an annual budget of 2.1 billion dollars.
Thoughts, anyone?
Gang, I would appreciate any insight/experience/thoughts on 403(b) plans in general. Here's the scoop - Daughter #2 contacted me today to say she would like to start participating in her school district's 403(b) plan. Yes, she is a teacher, and she will begin her 4th year teaching this fall after graduating from college in 2003. My initial advice was - YES, DEFINITELY.
Yesterday afternoon while hardly working, I began to investigate 403(b) plans. I have had a 401(k) plan for over 14 years and have no experience with the the public sector version (or so I thought). Doing a simple Google search I found the following web sites; one a forum for non-profit retirement funds (403(b) and 457), which seems replete with horror story after horror story about how “bad” most school district 403(b) plans are.
http://bwise.ibforums.com/lofiversion/index.php/f2.html
Then there is this article from our local paper here in the Pittsburgh area last year which doesn’t instill much confidence either.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05237/559905.stm
I know I have a lot more investigating to do, with my daughter, as it appears you have to contact each of the companies authorized to provide a plan under the school district’s 403(b) plan.
I guess what I’m looking for is some general advice that, even with the potential pitfalls of a “bad” 403(b) plan, should we find the “best of the worst” and invest in that, or just chuck the whole 403(b) idea and have her invest after-tax income in a Roth IRA? I know that this answer will be dependent on what products are being offered, but I was thinking that maybe there aren’t any products worth it. By the way, her school district does offer a 457(b) plan that contains at least 5 mutual fund options, but has some sort of bizarre (at least to me) “warning” that if you pick this option then,
“If you elect to contribute 100 percent of your check to the 457(b) plan, you may do so. However, given the standard ‘priorities’ assigned to various deductions by the payroll system, the following deductions will NOT be taken: charitable contributions, dues, summer fund withholding if you are paid on a less-than-12-month basis and receive summer checks, and any secondary deposits to savings accounts at other banking institutions…”
If I wasn’t so trusting, I’d swear this was instituted by the 403(b) plan providers, since the 457(b) plan option was just instituted in 2004. At first I thought it meant your entire paycheck, but the plan limits the maximum yearly contribution to $15,000 plus COLA increases (beginning this year), so I don’t think any teacher in this district makes $15,000 per year. By the way, this school district has over 20,000 teachers, and an annual budget of 2.1 billion dollars.
Thoughts, anyone?