Made the decision-struggling with announcing!

[Calico]

As others have said, wait until every check you are counting on has cleared your bank.

Please don't take offense, or take this personally, but the facts are:

No matter how much notice you give, your employer will not make good use of the time to find your replacement.

No matter how important or crucial you think you are to the survival of your employer, you are not. Just a fact of life.

The more notice you give, the more time your employer (and coworkers) will have to show you just how irrelevant you have immediately become.

Do what is best for you. Let your coworkers, clients, and employer cope with your departure. They will be fine.

 

[travelover]

It is rare that a replacement is actually hired until the former employee actually leaves, in spite of what anyone says they intend to do. My advice is to make the transition quick, after you have your bonus in hand.

 

[pb4uski]

... No matter how much notice you give, your employer will not make good use of the time to find your replacement.

No matter how important or crucial you think you are to the survival of your employer, you are not. Just a fact of life.

The more notice you give, the more time your employer (and coworkers) will have to show you just how irrelevant you have immediately become.

Do what is best for you. Let your coworkers, clients, and employer cope with your departure. They will be fine.

DD recently left her job. She gave them 6 weeks notice to begin with and they squandered that time. They then talked her into another 6 weeks in exchange for her regular pay and a retention bonus.

She wishes that she hadn't agreed to the extension. They didn't really take advantage of the additional time and brought in a consultant for her to cross train a week before her end date, marginalized her, excluded her from the Christmas bonus for all employees even thought she was still an active employee when the Christmas bonuses were paid and then they insisted that she turn in her laptop even though it is a model the company no longer uses or supports and by their own admission they will just recycle it (she offered to do a factory reset on it).

Ironically, they have yet to close down her access to company systems or data, including her company email address. Bozos.

 

[Calico]

DD recently left her job. She gave them 6 weeks notice to begin with and they squandered that time. They then talked her into another 6 weeks in exchange for her regular pay and a retention bonus.

She wishes that she hadn't agreed to the extension. They didn't really take advantage of the additional time and brought in a consultant for her to cross train a week before her end date, marginalized her, excluded her from the Christmas bonus for all employees even thought she was still an active employee when the Christmas bonuses were paid and then they insisted that she turn in her laptop even though it is a model the company no longer uses or supports and by their own admission they will just recycle it (she offered to do a factory reset on it).

Ironically, they have yet to close down her access to company systems or data, including her company email address. Bozos.

Oh boy, this all sounds way too familiar!!

I'm sorry your daughter went through this.

 

[Brat]

I agree with those who say wait until your bonus is in your account then give notice. Whether it is three weeks or four will not make much difference as your clients are reassigned.

 

[skyking1]

DW has to give 4 weeks to get all her PTO paid out at 100%
She gets a bonus deposited around 3-28 or so.
She will give notice on 4/1, but it won't be a joke

 

[foxfirev5]

It is rare that a replacement is actually hired until the former employee actually leaves, in spite of what anyone says they intend to do. My advice is to make the transition quick, after you have your bonus in hand.

Other than not retiring 5 years earlier my only other regret was giving 4 months notice. An onslaught of requests with no regard for what they would do when I was gone. Last I checked they're doing OK. Two weeks and out is what I wish I had done. Or right now, if I followed their lead regarding older employees that had served their purpose.

 

[FLSUnFIRE]

I would have given less time - no good came from the extended notice I gave. Minimal bad but took away my freedom of maneuver and also ticked me off when they squandered the time. I just got a call recently from a coworker (5 months after leaving) asking if me if I thought he'd like my old job as he was just asked if he would be interested... they still don't know how they are going to back fill it. Due to the cyclical nature of my FORMER!!! workload, they better figure it out fast.


I also found that once I gave notice, my motivation went down dramatically and I was just counting days (especially with the squandering as the most productive use of my time would have been working with a replacement). I was not expecting that. YMMV

 

[casole]

Wow wow wow.!!! To each and every one of you who responded a huge thank you!! It was enlightening to get such honest feedback and all of your objective thoughts and experiences. I was way deep in my "feelings about my feelings". Minimal notice and "after the check clears" it is.

Then it's off to Winslow, AZ! ? Even if they are calling me as the airplane door closes... Booking a trip the day after you end date. Genius!!

 

[Calico]

casole,

It is not every new poster who appreciates the very honest feedback they get around here! Good for you for taking it in the spirit in which it was intended.

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your impending retirement!

 

[CardsFan]

For the record, sometimes the longer notice works out just fine, it did for me. BUT, as noted above, I still waited until all bonuses hit the bank, and was prepared to walk out the door the day I gave notice.

By the way, preparing to walk out the door includes downloading any personal info you might have on a company computer, though I am sure no one has that as it is against company policy

 

[momoftwo]

I retired from a large healthcare system 2 years ago at 62 after 40 yrs in various roles.
I had no fear of being walked out day of announcement. Not because I thought I was indispensable but because I was a warm body. The department had been running down several staffers due to lack of applicants for several years.

I definitely waited till I earned my yearly cash balance deposit on July.1.
That equalled 13% of my last salary

Best to you.

 

[Brat]

Concurr about downloading your contact list well before communicating your intent to leave. It's not because you may want to use it professionally, you will want to maintain relationships developed over the years. Where possible obtain their personal, not professional, email addresses.

 

[perez99]

Just went thru this. Today is my last day . Gave notice to my boss in September. He asked me not to disclose. Formal announcement with my team was in early December. My successor is still not selected

don't take personal risk over this.

 

[Jim59]

Just went thru this. Today is my last day . Gave notice to my boss in September. He asked me not to disclose. Formal announcement with my team was in early December. My successor is still not selected

don't take personal risk over this.

Congratulations as you move to a new life chapter.

 

[casole]

Congratulations as you move to a new life chapter.

@perez99,

Congratulations!!!!!! Happy retired new year to you. ������ Message received loud and clear from everyone here!

 

[skyking1]

@perez99,

Congratulations!!!!!! Happy retired new year to you. ������ Message received loud and clear from everyone here!

You have to admit is is a nice message. Rather than fret what they are going to do, now you just have your internal mantra when things are odious at work < X number of days to go, keep your eyes on the prize, heck I can do X days standing on my head, LA LA LA> whichever little thing gets you by
You are welcome to come here and vent or whatever while the clock ticks down to the notice day.

 

[brett]

The number 1 rule on giving notice: Be prepared to be told "ok how about today?" and walked out, the minute you tell them your plans.

Oh, they would never do that to me! uh, yes, yes they would. Absolutely keep schtum until that all the checks you are counting on are cleared.

Best advice ever. Get your money out plus copies of any important documentation that you may want or need in the future. Protect yourself. Assume that you will be walked out and your company IT access removed.

As a former senior manager I know of at least two employees who were on the the list to be layed off/terminated within weeks along with a generous severance package.

They made their resignation/retirement intentions known too far in advance. One employee missed out on a settlement equal to 14 months of salary. Never told him this of course.

As for training or identifying a replacement......this is now your employers problem. Not yours.

 

[CP Soon]

If you search "how much notice" you will find some good threads on this topic. My answer? Give the shortest time possible. No loyalty would be returned to you if they were the ones deciding your end date.

Your bosses will squander whatever time you grant them. And whatever time you grant, you will be replaced and mostly forgotten two weeks later.

If you were head hunted for a position in another company paying twice your salary, you would be expected to give 2 weeks, or double that - tops. The "position" you're going to is even better than that!

Op, this advice is 100% spot on. IMHO, there is zero benefit to you to give large notice. If you do, wait until after bonus is secured. if you give notice now, you will be posting another thread on how you got screwed on your bonus. Again, wait until after bonus. If you want to still give June 1st that would give employer 10 - 12 week lead-time which is more than generous on your end. DO NOT extend beyond June 1st.

 

[swabby01]

Worked as an exec of a Major portfolio ($1B) for a fortune 100 company - After I secured Bonus and LTI in March of 2018 and I notified my boss that I would be retiring on on my birthday, Aug 1 and wanted them to hire my replacement so we could maximize overlap and I could take the replacement to introduce to senior execs of customers and my suppliers.

They went into denial and said that i wasn't serious. I reverified I was. They gave me a second raise and I thanked them and then said I was still leaving.

Bottom line was I didn't get my replacement until three weeks before I was leaving and we did the whirlwind tour around the world (Israel, Germany, Japan, Australia ... ). When I got back boss said our CEO requested that I delay retirement for three additional months and when I held firm I was treated as the bad guy. Thankfully by that time it was only a week left and I haven't looked back and have been pleased with the decision to stay the course.

I would give them 2-3 weeks notice max and then hold to leaving.

 

[2017ish]

DW gave 2 years notice, and I gave mine a couple months later for the same date. Worked well for us, as we were both in small professional firms for which hiring had a long lead time. (She, in a 4 doc obgyn group, me in 5 lawyer litigation boutique).

She was slammed until the end, and I slowed down only in the last couple of weeks. (I also gave 4 months notice in big law of quitting to raise the kids back in the day, and saw no reduction in the quantity or quality of my work during those months).

YMWV.

 

[a60dan]

I waited until 11/1 to give my 12/31 notice after 38+ years.

If I were told to hit the road, I'd only have 1 month to pay my insurance before the ACA plan would start.

It took about a week before it was "blabbed" in a meeting and I got the text to tell my team. My boss had predicted that......

If I had told anyone sooner, I doubt it would have made a difference.

It turned out well for me. Nice sincere send-off. I feel bad for my poor boss and former report who got "stuck" with my responsibility. It took until mid-December to announce the succession "plan".

I'm on day 2 of not going to w*rk and really enjoying the freedom.....

 

[HarveyS]

If you search "how much notice" you will find some good threads on this topic. My answer? Give the shortest time possible. No loyalty would be returned to you if they were the ones deciding your end date.

Your bosses will squander whatever time you grant them. And whatever time you grant, you will be replaced and mostly forgotten two weeks later.

If you were head hunted for a position in another company paying twice your salary, you would be expected to give 2 weeks, or double that - tops. The "position" you're going to is even better than that!

+100

 

[sroby2020]

I'm thinking for a senior position in your field, that only a small amount of training your replacement would be necessary, if any at all. To qualify for such a position, the candidate would need X number of years in a similar role (client services ...) so, they would already know how to work the clients.
I think a minimum amount of notice would be best.
I've always lived with the attitude that "everyone" is replaceable.... and on short notice.

 

[ModestNestEgg]

I waited until 11/1 to give my 12/31 notice after 38+ years.

If I were told to hit the road, I'd only have 1 month to pay my insurance before the ACA plan would start.

It took about a week before it was "blabbed" in a meeting and I got the text to tell my team. My boss had predicted that......

If I had told anyone sooner, I doubt it would have made a difference.

It turned out well for me. Nice sincere send-off. I feel bad for my poor boss and former report who got "stuck" with my responsibility. It took until mid-December to announce the succession "plan".

I'm on day 2 of not going to w*rk and really enjoying the freedom.....

Congratulations. I am so glad that you were treated respectfully for your dedicated service. I still have some years before I reach that point, but I'm glad your experience was good and you were treated with proper respect.

This has been an eye opening, enlightening, yet sobering thread to say the least.

It makes me wonder if the type of treatment commonly mentioned (being treated with disrespectful and hostile distance, and made to feel instantly irrelevant with colleagues and supervisors treating you so they want you to know they are making you an outsider now) is universal or more typical in the bottom 50% or so of workplaces?