Home Security

We also had a very helpful police walk trough after a problem many years ago. The officer did a great 10 minute walk through and for less than $100 with no recurring fees we had a much more secure home.
 
Grave stone next to the driveway that says "Here lies the last S.O.B. that trespassed on this property"
 
I got the X10 system in the mail on Friday, they have fast shipping.

I would say the overall quality of the system is almost worth what I paid for it.

The alarm siren (sound) is not extremely loud. I even had the extra siren/horn with the system I ordered.

I haven't fully set it up yet but it seems to work ok.

The cords on the door/window sensors aren't long enough to put the transmitter in as inconspicuous spot as possible.

They claim you can install the sytem in 30 minutes on their website... yeah right. It took almost that long to unpackage each individually wrapped and boxed component.

Still debating if I want to just send it back... :-(
 
When we had double-hung windows, we did this for all of them:

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Al, your design was one of the items the officer suggested and we implemented, only tweak would be eyebolt sounds like an expensive 2 cents each item we just used a nail.
 
I blew a buck a package for two track locks with thumbscrews. Just a u-shaped metal piece you slip over one of the window tracks, tighten the thumbscrew and voila...you can only open the window that far. Easy to adjust, move and remove.
 
31 years in this house and one break-in about 20 years ago. We were at dinner and came home to find the window in the back door broken. Small items, some sentimental, were missing but nothing large. We had double cylinder deadbolt locks and even after climbing through the window, the culprit couldn't unlock the door to carry bigger things out. :D

We replaced the door with one with a smaller window, kept the double cylinder deadbolt locks and decided against a security system. My main concern is our personal safety and vandalism and don't worry too much about the theft aspect.

We choose or home owners insurance carefully and secure the house at bedtime. Beyond that, security systems, dogs, etc., are more trouble than they're worth.
 
I'm with the bunny on this one - my dogs bring alot to my life....
I take a walk to our nearby lake almost every day because of how much my dogs love it - it is a kick to see how easy they are to please! I enjoy looking at life/a walk through their eyes.
I also appreciate how these animals protect our home - I always know when the bobcat/mountain loin/coyotes are around our house - the dogs have a special bark for these animals - a long sustained deep bark - it sounds like a classic - woof, woof etc. I know when UPS is coming - if someone is cutting through my property to get to the lake etc.
I guess one of the reasons for this post is - we lost one of our 3 dogs yesterday, she was a volunteer(showed up 6 years ago as an old dog) and fit in with us and our other critters right away- Susie was as dumb as a box of rocks but she made up for it with her enthusiasm - I swear she would blink and be happy to see you again....
 
Donzo, it was good of you to take Susie in, I'm sure she returned the kindness. I'm sorry for your loss.
 
What really shocked me was that they were stupid enough to do this when it was obvious that we were home. They didn't have weapons, or even tools, so what was the point?

Some of them are so stupid it hurts just trying to contemplate their thought processes. Burglary is not that complicated of a crime to pull off. If they do it more than a couple of times they will all eventually get caught when they make a mistake or are unlucky. Don't be seen, don't leave fingerprints all over the place, and don't hock the stuff in some way that it will be traced back to you.

Some of them are not stupid, despite being dumb enough to think they can get away with it forever. Sometimes guys like that can amass quite a string of crimes before they get caught.

When I was a detective I cleared several hundred burglary cases on one defendant. He was in the county jail awaiting transfer to the penitentiary and he had no commissary money. In exchange for cigarettes and coffee (and no additional charges) he agreed to show me every burglary he had done in the city (he had already done the same for a county detective who was a friend of mine). The guy had an amazing memory for details, so I made him prove each case to me by detailing something unique about what he stole or saw inside each home. I could have cleared more cases than I did, but as it was it took me weeks to write all of the supplemental reports to clear the cases.

He had just finished showing me the locations of 50-60 apartment burglaries when suddenly he remembered something and told us to turn down a dead-end street. There was a small townhome complex of 8-10 units and he commenced to admitting to burglarizing all of them except one.

We were sitting in the parking lot while I was scribbled notes when I noticed a couple leaving the unit that doofus had not burgled. The guy immediately knocked us off and almost as quickly I recognized him as a cop from my agency that I had seen around. We got to talking, and after I explained what was going on, he said "That's got to be the SOB that stole my guns!"

When I got back in the car I asked doofus if he was sure he hadn't made a clean sweep in the complex. "No sir, I hit all of 'em except that one there. I meant to, just never quite got around to it though."

He was dumb enough to be a crook, just not a real stupid one.
 
In our case, when one of them kicked in the old wooden back door to the garage, the wood broke into a few pieces. After the police officer took some pictures he picked up one of the shattered pieces of wood and showed me a lovely, complete shoe print. Yeah, these guys were amateurs, and dumb, too.
 
A group was recently arrested in our area. They had a friend who delivered newspapers and told them which customers had temporary stop delivery orders.
 
Donzo....... if you read my post, you'll see CFB edited and then mis-quoted, changing the meaning. My statement said that dogs and security systems are more trouble than they're worth in regards to preventing break-ins. Not that if you want pets, dogs are a bad choice.
 
Oh gosh youbet, first I'm a lover of worker exploitation and now I'm dead guilty of selectively quoting you for the nefarious purposes of posting cute puppy pictures.

I took out a couple of words in the middle because I didnt have any lovable pictures of baby security systems.

MY BAD!

Here ya go. Quite a prolific little family.
 

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I'm dead guilty of selectively quoting you
I took out a couple of words in the middle because I didnt have any lovable pictures of baby security systems.

MY BAD!

Just wanted the grieving Donzo to know I wasn't bad mouthing dogs, just saying that, for me, if the only reason I wanted a dog was to provide home security, I'd find some other way.........

Of course, I hadn't thought about the way you're doing it. Instead of a 129 lb German Shepherd, you get a cute little poodle pup. When the burglar "ohs and aaahs" the little pup and bends over to pet it, you crack him up the back of the head with a baseball bat. Hmmmm..... maybe not a bad strategy.

BTW, this idea of having animals around to protect the house came to mind when I read the concurrently running "trunk monkey" thread. How about a "house monkey?" You know, a big, horny stud monkey trained to get friendly with strangers that enter the house when you're not home........ ;)
 
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I guess one of the reasons for this post is - we lost one of our 3 dogs yesterday, she was a volunteer(showed up 6 years ago as an old dog) and fit in with us and our other critters right away- Susie was as dumb as a box of rocks but she made up for it with her enthusiasm - I swear she would blink and be happy to see you again....

My deepest sympathies on your loss.
 
Home alarm system, agreed to it mostly for the tied in smoke detectors and RADON/whatever toxic fume detectors. Fort Knox style secure screen door on the front. Swapped out deadbolts on the doors. Windows and doors alarmed and motion detectors on the first floor.

Like others said, I'm not trying to outrun the bear, just outrun the neighbor.
 
You can also set it up to make a "bing" sound when you're home and someone opens one of the exterior doors. Thats awfully handy when you have a 2 year old that just became able to reach the doorknobs and a wife who forgets to lock them.
Another handy use of the "bing" sound is to use it through your kids' entire childhood so that they get conditioned to ignore it. Then, when they are teenagers trying to sneak in (or out!) late--"bing"--you can welcome them home or reel them back in.
 
Moemg, samclem and Calgary girl thanks for the kind words.

Youbet, I agree that if you only have dogs for home protection - like a junk yard dog - it is better to find another way. It is not fair to the dog.
 
Of course, I hadn't thought about the way you're doing it. Instead of a 129 lb German Shepherd, you get a cute little poodle pup. When the burglar "ohs and aaahs" the little pup and bends over to pet it, you crack him up the back of the head with a baseball bat. Hmmmm..... maybe not a bad strategy.

Hmm, well heres what one of the cuddly little poodle pups turned into...maybe a little bit shy of 100lbs

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And the other one, a paltry 75

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And of course, the emergency backup dog...we're not sure what he is but i'm fairly sure theres no poodle involved and he's well north of 129lbs.

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So as usual, my planning is vastly underrated...
 
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