Many of the contributors on this forum are convinced
that index investing is superior over the long term.
I am a recent convert myself, having been brain washed
by Bogle and Bernstein.
Recently I ran across the "coffeehouse" asset
allocation which uses 40% bonds and 10% each
in Large Market, Large Value, Small Market, Small
Value, International and REITS. The annualized
return for this mix was 10.848% over the 13 year
period from 1991 through 2003 . I thought to
myself "Self, this is really good".
Then as a sanity check, I looked up Vanguard's
old reliable Wellington and Star funds. Lo and
Behold! The Star had a 11.34% annualized return
while the Wellington had 11.96% !!
As you may know, the STAR is a fund of managed
funds while the Wellington is a value tilting managed
fund.
Granted 13 years may not be "long term" enough for
some, but it seems to be a reasonable test to me.
Maybe Vanguard's monkeys are just smarter than
the market?
Bernstein says the knock on index funds in down
markets is not true but I think his case may be weak.
After all, it is intuitive that a nimble manager should
be able to earn his pay in a down market, if ever.
Just looking at 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003, the
annualized results were:
Coffeehouse .......... 6.29%
STAR....................... 5.12%
Balanced Index ...... 0.76%
Wellington .............. 6.64%
I know these results don't prove anything but
they are interesting to me.
We know that index = low cost = good long term
returns. But Vanguard's managed balanced funds
have low cost also and they SHINE!!
What do you make of this?
Cheers,
Charlie (aka Chuck-Lyn)
that index investing is superior over the long term.
I am a recent convert myself, having been brain washed
by Bogle and Bernstein.
Recently I ran across the "coffeehouse" asset
allocation which uses 40% bonds and 10% each
in Large Market, Large Value, Small Market, Small
Value, International and REITS. The annualized
return for this mix was 10.848% over the 13 year
period from 1991 through 2003 . I thought to
myself "Self, this is really good".
Then as a sanity check, I looked up Vanguard's
old reliable Wellington and Star funds. Lo and
Behold! The Star had a 11.34% annualized return
while the Wellington had 11.96% !!
As you may know, the STAR is a fund of managed
funds while the Wellington is a value tilting managed
fund.
Granted 13 years may not be "long term" enough for
some, but it seems to be a reasonable test to me.
Maybe Vanguard's monkeys are just smarter than
the market?
Bernstein says the knock on index funds in down
markets is not true but I think his case may be weak.
After all, it is intuitive that a nimble manager should
be able to earn his pay in a down market, if ever.
Just looking at 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003, the
annualized results were:
Coffeehouse .......... 6.29%
STAR....................... 5.12%
Balanced Index ...... 0.76%
Wellington .............. 6.64%
I know these results don't prove anything but
they are interesting to me.
We know that index = low cost = good long term
returns. But Vanguard's managed balanced funds
have low cost also and they SHINE!!
What do you make of this?
Cheers,
Charlie (aka Chuck-Lyn)