MooreBonds
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Somewhat related to the active thread about taking a job for less....
I'm an engineer, mid 30s. Was approached by a former colleague (previously worked at my current employer with me, and also knew him in the industry a few years prior). Long story short, after having lunch 2 weeks ago, and then a formal interview (today), he hinted at what the salary range would be for my position with their company (62k-68k), and that he guessed what he would peg me at (65k).
After he said that, my fears were realized, as I had to tell him that my current salary is 85k, and on top of that was just given a 4% raise (effective 4/1) last week.
He paused for a second, then started to hem and haw, and mentioned something about changing my position title (to involve some supervision of another person, which presumably would involve a higher salary), and also threw out a reference to possibly going hourly.
Benefits are fairly 'standard': company pays for portion of health insurance, has a 4% 401k match, 2 weeks vacation.
My question to all of you is: apart from the obvious things like more vacation time (which would only be able to make up so much ground), are there any 'creative' things you were able to strike a deal with an employer to make up for some compensation ground?
If I were still working for my father, it would be easier to do some unsual things like a company car, company-paid gas, etc....but this is not a relative, and it's a slightly larger organization (150 people, several offices), so I'll be limited to relatively 'conventional' ideas.
This company that's courting me obviously has put me in the driver's seat, since I'm relatively ok where I'm at now...but the company courting me definitely has a much greater appeal for their technical competency on how they execute some things, like 3D design, so I would be interested in joining their team - but not at such a significant salary cut (there would be room for growth with different classifications as I obtain various certifications, but it wouldn't be significant enough to erase that gap).
I interviewed with another firm almost 5 years ago in the DC area (before arriving at my current employer), and they were going to start me at $75k plus a $5k relocation, and a salary review after 6 months...at that same time (5 years ago) I also had talked to a recruiter who said he could find me a position with another firm for my $85k-$90k range I was looking for, so I know that there are some firms out there willing to pay at that level for my experience....just trying to figure out how much of the feedback from today's interview is just posturing to pay as little as possible or how much is truly sticker shock.
I'm an engineer, mid 30s. Was approached by a former colleague (previously worked at my current employer with me, and also knew him in the industry a few years prior). Long story short, after having lunch 2 weeks ago, and then a formal interview (today), he hinted at what the salary range would be for my position with their company (62k-68k), and that he guessed what he would peg me at (65k).
After he said that, my fears were realized, as I had to tell him that my current salary is 85k, and on top of that was just given a 4% raise (effective 4/1) last week.
He paused for a second, then started to hem and haw, and mentioned something about changing my position title (to involve some supervision of another person, which presumably would involve a higher salary), and also threw out a reference to possibly going hourly.
Benefits are fairly 'standard': company pays for portion of health insurance, has a 4% 401k match, 2 weeks vacation.
My question to all of you is: apart from the obvious things like more vacation time (which would only be able to make up so much ground), are there any 'creative' things you were able to strike a deal with an employer to make up for some compensation ground?
If I were still working for my father, it would be easier to do some unsual things like a company car, company-paid gas, etc....but this is not a relative, and it's a slightly larger organization (150 people, several offices), so I'll be limited to relatively 'conventional' ideas.
This company that's courting me obviously has put me in the driver's seat, since I'm relatively ok where I'm at now...but the company courting me definitely has a much greater appeal for their technical competency on how they execute some things, like 3D design, so I would be interested in joining their team - but not at such a significant salary cut (there would be room for growth with different classifications as I obtain various certifications, but it wouldn't be significant enough to erase that gap).
I interviewed with another firm almost 5 years ago in the DC area (before arriving at my current employer), and they were going to start me at $75k plus a $5k relocation, and a salary review after 6 months...at that same time (5 years ago) I also had talked to a recruiter who said he could find me a position with another firm for my $85k-$90k range I was looking for, so I know that there are some firms out there willing to pay at that level for my experience....just trying to figure out how much of the feedback from today's interview is just posturing to pay as little as possible or how much is truly sticker shock.
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