kcowan
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Yes I think the people that are calling for actions against wikileaks should question their own motivations. It seems to be one big yawn to an outside observer.
Do you mean the warlord who is sitting on his couch surfing wikileaks?However, if you were in Afghanistan, trying to negotiate with a local war lord, you might have a different view.
No I am deadly serious. We only worry about real problems. Like when our governments try to manipulate us and others.Does that pass for humor in your neck of the woods?
Is it just me, or has wikileaks.org been down for 3-4 days?
Rustic, I didn't interpret Keith's comment as an attempt at humor... and even if it was, I don't think it'd merit that sort of riposte.Does that pass for humor in your neck of the woods?
... i.e. the use of the term 'U.S. propaganda'.
It was during the chapter meeting a couple months ago.Nords,
I do not remember making such a comment to you, and I am not sure I understand the intent of your last statement. In fact the more I read it, it seems to contradict the point you made earlier in the post. But, hey, as I said, I only have the written word to interpret, so I may be 100% off.
Well there you go. A difference between you and I. .... I believe the defense of this country when attacked from an outsider is called for. Many from different countries seem to think it is perfectly ok to denigrate and take shots at the US and it's policies on this site. I don't, and I do not apologies for stating such.
Many from different countries seem to think it is perfectly ok to denigrate and take shots at the US and it's policies
I think you need to add "until they need our help and expect it" after the word "policies"..........see France or a fair number of other countries around the globe.........
Sad, but true.
Just goes to show you can't buy love.
And we should stop trying.......
Well, I have held off on this one for awhile but thought I might as well chime in...
It looks to be a failure of the gvmt to monitor who can get what info... saw something last night that said there were over 600,000 people who had access to ALL the info that is being put on Wikileaks... and more...
Is it just me or does that sound like a bit many...
They said the system was opened up after 9-11 so people can connect the dots.... but they also failed to notify anybody who seems to make huge downloads of info... I think that will be fixed going forward...
The question is how do you fix the problem? The private in question worked in Army IT, not sure how you keep a pretty clever programmer from getting access to a database about Afghanistan. The fix Assange hopes will occur is that the US will compartmentalize our information so that the future Army captain ask Bill to help him catch Joe not realizing they are cousins and our troops run into an ambush.So, Assange (or whatever his name) is not a friend of the US... big deal... we have a lot of enemies... I don't think there is anything that we can or should do about it... just fix the problems and move on...
As for the private that they think did the leaking... the guy on the TV said that he should (and probably will) spend the rest of his life in jail... I do not have any problem with that either... he knew, or should have known, the damage that he was doing... I still wonder how a private can get access to all that stuff...
So how do we classify the information about Bill, Bob, and Joe? It ain't the launch code for nuclear missile but it isn't information that we want getting back to Bill and Joe. It seems to me that stamping it secret or top secret and letting people with this level of clearance and some plausible connection to Afghanistan access is the best way.
The question is how do you fix the problem? The private in question worked in Army IT, not sure how you keep a pretty clever programmer from getting access to a database about Afghanistan. The fix Assange hopes will occur is that the US will compartmentalize our information so that the future Army captain ask Bill to help him catch Joe not realizing they are cousins and our troops run into an ambush.
This will make America a less effective authoritative government, which maybe a good thing unless you happened to be related to one of the American soldiers killed or wounded in the ambush.
Some have wondered here how a pfc, gets access. It is easy. Just because he is a pfc, does not mean he does not have a security clearance, or is not trained for his job, which I believe was IT. In this case his need to know was not operational. It was to manage the data bases. In order to do this he would require read and write capabilities.