.... Second, the UAW must give back. The union is what has helped to destroy this company. When janitors there make more than teachers, that is ludicrous. ....
Just my $ .02!
Ain't gona happen in any meaningful way IMHO. How can the govt make them? The UAW goes on strike against the govt and GM and the govt holds out? I don't think so. The incoming administration is vocally pro-union. ....
This is the only realistic analysis of this topic I've seen on the forum. For heaven's sake, how can a guy who owes his political life to unions and quid pro quo suddenly suddenly say "Only kidding!"
Higher auto prices and taxes and perhaps inflation resulting from propping up the current structure will only screw the great unwashed public, but will deliver concentrated benefits to a target group. This is what politics is for folks, where you been?
Ha
For an amazing example of this, listen to this podcast:
Do the Big Three Deserve to Be Saved? - To the Point on KCRW
Warren Olney on "to the point", interviewing some guy who writes for a Detroit magazine "Labor Notes".
That part starts in ~ 21:00, and the Union guy says that any restructuring (airlines, steel) disproportionately affects the workers. Then, the Q at 21:46 is the biggie - he asks the guy if the Unions share in the responsibility to re-negotiate due to all the current and legacy costs?
a bit of stumbling and dancing, then they guy picks up on an interesting "party line" - First, he talks about how Rick Waggoner likes to drag out these big numbers for health care, and the guy says this is bigger than the BIG THREE, and he spins that to a national problem, we have 50M w/o health care, blah, blah, blah... essentially saying that the govt should be paying for the Union Health care anyway, and tryng to lump the UAW workers in with the average Joe.
Hmmm, if the health care costs were bigger than the BIG Three, then why did the unions insist on them? It sounds like he *is* admitting that the Unions are partially resp for bankrupting the auto companies. But, since that Sugar Daddy ran out of money, let's just turn to the Biggest Sugar Daddy of them all - good old Uncle Sam!
At least that's my take on it. Any others?
-ERD50