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Old 12-07-2020, 05:25 AM   #41
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This exactly what we try to do, the other aspects still need more work. It is definitely a game of strategy.
You should watch how the pros return the serve. They often hit the ball with a slice type return, which "floats" the ball somewhat in the back third of the court.
This allows more time to get the net much easier. If you can slice the ball, this shot is not too difficult, especially on the forehand.
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The new Vanguard series from Selkirk is $199. Paddles are getting a lot more expensive. The manufacturers are claiming that they have spent a lot of money on R&D and therefore have to charge more.

There are many paddles in the $80 dollars are quite good. Champion's paddles are priced in $60 range. I think they are just good as others that cost about $80.

I play with Peddletek Element, which is no longer made. It has nice control and power. I bought it for $45 when it was on sales from Pickleball Central. DW likes to play with the latest and the greatest. I bought her the Peddletek Tempest Wave Pro 6 months ago. Now she wants to 'upgrade' to the Vanguard series from Selkirk, hoping to improve her game.
I get your DW. LOL
I just bought the Vanguard last week. Love the paddle.
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You should watch how the pros return the serve. They often hit the ball with a slice type return, which "floats" the ball somewhat in the back third of the court.
This allows more time to get the net much easier. If you can slice the ball, this shot is not too difficult, especially on the forehand.
I've been watching some slow motion video which I have found helpful. I do return some shots with a slice, but have not really done that on return of serve. I have experimented a few times with a slice serve and that is a killer shot if I hit it correctly and put it in the right spot. My fellow players get mad at me when I experiment on different ways to hit the ball, as my experimenting can sometimes cost our team points, LOL. My new Rally PXL paddle, cost me $49, is a big improvement vs the cheap wooden paddles we started with.

Are there any books or video lessons that would be worthwhile spending a few $s on? There are a few instructors in the area, but with Covid this is not a great time to book lessons indoors and outdoors the weather is getting colder and windier.
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I've been watching some slow motion video which I have found helpful. I do return some shots with a slice, but have not really done that on return of serve. I have experimented a few times with a slice serve and that is a killer shot if I hit it correctly and put it in the right spot. My fellow players get mad at me when I experiment on different ways to hit the ball, as my experimenting can sometimes cost our team points, LOL. My new Rally PXL paddle, cost me $49, is a big improvement vs the cheap wooden paddles we started with.

Are there any books or video lessons that would be worthwhile spending a few $s on? There are a few instructors in the area, but with Covid this is not a great time to book lessons indoors and outdoors the weather is getting colder and windier.
See below for some video lessons from In2pickle. The lead instructor for this site is Tony Roig and he is very detailed. He takes actual situations and analyzes what they did, what they should/could have done, etc.

https://in2pickle.com/pages/pickleball-videos

As for the slice return of serve, since you have this type of shot in your arsenal, you can use it on many returns without too much effort. Again the purpose is not to win the point on the return, but to get to the kitchen line much easier.

As for slice serves, I use them to some extent and more so if the wind is moving left to right when serving from the "ad court".
As you move up in level though, you will find most agile (even if older) players can get to these serves and thus if your "out" serves are more than 1 per game, it probably is not worth it.
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One of the challenges of improving your skill level in pickleball is the better you get the fewer balls people will hit to you. Teams will try to pick on the weaker play to win a game, so if you start making too many shots they will direct the balls to your partner. If your partner is not as strong as you, it will eventually feel like you are standing around watching the game while your partner is playing singles.

This can be really frustrating during open play if I can’t find a strong partner to play with.
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See below for some video lessons from In2pickle. The lead instructor for this site is Tony Roig and he is very detailed. He takes actual situations and analyzes what they did, what they should/could have done, etc.

https://in2pickle.com/pages/pickleball-videos

As for the slice return of serve, since you have this type of shot in your arsenal, you can use it on many returns without too much effort. Again the purpose is not to win the point on the return, but to get to the kitchen line much easier.

As for slice serves, I use them to some extent and more so if the wind is moving left to right when serving from the "ad court".
As you move up in level though, you will find most agile (even if older) players can get to these serves and thus if your "out" serves are more than 1 per game, it probably is not worth it.
Thanks for that link, looks like a good one.
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I get your DW. LOL
I just bought the Vanguard last week. Love the paddle.
That's nice. The reviews say it offers great control and possibly a game changer. Enjoy.
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One of the challenges of improving your skill level in pickleball is the better you get the fewer balls people will hit to you. Teams will try to pick on the weaker play to win a game, so if you start making too many shots they will direct the balls to your partner. If your partner is not as strong as you, it will eventually feel like you are standing around watching the game while your partner is playing singles.

This can be really frustrating during open play if I can’t find a strong partner to play with.
For a doubles game, you should always partner with someone who is at your level if possible.
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For a doubles game, you should always partner with someone who is at your level if possible.
In rec play this concept can be difficult at times depending who you play with.
Even in mixed double play when the partners are relatively equal, sometimes the female player is targeted by the male player especially if a hard hitter.
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One of guys I play with found an instructor that does not charge for lessons and he spent some time with us yesterday. He showed us a lot of drills that were quite helpful. He also had a Selkirk Vanguard and Amped S2. I got to try his S2 for a few drills from the NVL and it was a huge improvement in control and being able to absorb a hot shot and just had an overall more solid feel vs my paddle. I can see why Dtail and Ready speak highly of these paddles. I did not get to try his Vanguard.
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One of guys I play with found an instructor that does not charge for lessons and he spent some time with us yesterday. He showed us a lot of drills that were quite helpful. He also had a Selkirk Vanguard and Amped S2. I got to try his S2 for a few drills from the NVL and it was a huge improvement in control and being able to absorb a hot shot and just had an overall more solid feel vs my paddle. I can see why Dtail and Ready speak highly of these paddles. I did not get to try his Vanguard.
Good to see you tried it. The Vanguard for me has even more control and less stress on the elbow than the Amped.
The Selkirk upper level racquets are designed to be able to absorb the blows, as their thickness in design works nicely.
I am more of a control type player than a "banger", so the specific S2 type of racquet works better for me.
Keep practicing when you can and you will get even better.
Be careful, as it can become obsessive. lol
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Our park is talking about converting unused shuffleboard courts to pickleball. I am interested in playing, but I hurt my knee years ago skiing, and cannot make the turns require for tennis. Can I play pickleball?
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Our park is talking about converting unused shuffleboard courts to pickleball. I am interested in playing, but I hurt my knee years ago skiing, and cannot make the turns require for tennis. Can I play pickleball?
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The knee pressure in Pickleball is more of the crouching variety. Are you able to crouch down, then back up to a standing position with no pain?
The turn to hit the ball in Pickleball is more of a step forward shot with a shoulder rotation; less knee rotation than tennis, but there can be some rotation on occasion.
Give it a try and see what happens.
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Anybody playing pickleball after a hip replacement? I've been playing basketball but that is now out after THR. I played some pickleball as a lark and seemed to pick it up pretty quickly and enjoyed it. Wondering if it's something I could play when healed. I mean, I know I can play if I take it easy but I'm concerned about bending low for certain shots. I don't think I have the disposition to just let some shots go and concede the point.
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Anybody playing pickleball after a hip replacement? I've been playing basketball but that is now out after THR. I played some pickleball as a lark and seemed to pick it up pretty quickly and enjoyed it. Wondering if it's something I could play when healed. I mean, I know I can play if I take it easy but I'm concerned about bending low for certain shots. I don't think I have the disposition to just let some shots go and concede the point.


DH had his hip replacement three years ago; we’ve been playing pickleball for two years. He does fine.

We find that aches and pains aren’t a function of how hard we play, but rather how often we play and playing surface. Outdoor courts (pavement) make my legs and feet hurt more than wooden indoor courts.
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DH had his hip replacement three years ago; we’ve been playing pickleball for two years. He does fine.

We find that aches and pains aren’t a function of how hard we play, but rather how often we play and playing surface. Outdoor courts (pavement) make my legs and feet hurt more than wooden indoor courts.
Don't know about hip replacement play, but definitely agree with the above statement as to frequency and type of court.
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Anybody playing pickleball after a hip replacement? I've been playing basketball but that is now out after THR. I played some pickleball as a lark and seemed to pick it up pretty quickly and enjoyed it. Wondering if it's something I could play when healed. I mean, I know I can play if I take it easy but I'm concerned about bending low for certain shots. I don't think I have the disposition to just let some shots go and concede the point.
My partner had a hip replacement years ago and seems to be doing fine. We both started as beginners a few weeks ago.
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The guys I play with all upgraded to better paddles, so I relented and ordered a Gearbox GX6 8.5oz power paddle. Played with it today for the first time and it blew me away. I was a bit skeptical that a paddle could make much of difference, but was quite surprised at how much better this paddle performed vs my $49 dollar starter paddle.
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The guys I play with all upgraded to better paddles, so I relented and ordered a Gearbox GX6 8.5oz power paddle. Played with it today for the first time and it blew me away. I was a bit skeptical that a paddle could make much of difference, but was quite surprised at how much better this paddle performed vs my $49 dollar starter paddle.
Good for you. Many folks don't believe a higher quality paddle can make a difference, until they play with one.
8.5 oz is definitely a little on the heavy side, but if it feels right to you, that's good.
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Good for you. Many folks don't believe a higher quality paddle can make a difference, until they play with one.
8.5 oz is definitely a little on the heavy side, but if it feels right to you, that's good.
It honestly does not feel any heavier to me than the old one which I believe was 7.8oz. One thing that concerned me is Gearbox's largest offered handle size is 3 15/16", but the smaller size made no difference to me. I am now playing with a glove which also helped me.
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