Coronavirus - Health aspects

[braumeister]

This may already have been brought up, but does anyone know if people in China routinely get annual flu shots like we do?

It seems like all those varieties I've gotten over so many years might give me some slight degree of protection.

 

[Running_Man]

The flu season is just about ending, in the Northern hemishere daily sunshine is increasing and it kills the flu. So most likely there is never going to be a pandemic in the United States, the numbers as increasing from December- January do not support the panic in this thread.

 

[Masquernom]

I'm surprised that there haven't been more cases in India or Africa. Africa has a lot of travel back and forth to China. I don't know about India, but I'd have thought so.
Must not be many Chinese vacationing in Cancun or other resorts in Mexico. Haven't heard anything from those areas either.
Maybe the early response to restrict travel by China has actually worked.

 

[tmm99]

The first death in Japan (The 3rd outside China) - A woman in her 80's who lived in Kanagawa Prefecture (next to Tokyo) with no travel history to China, started feeling ill on the 22nd and then on the 1st, she was diagnosed with pneumonia and got admitted to the hospital. Her condition worsened and she died on the 13th. She was tested on the 13th for the coronavirus and the came back positive.

 

[stepford]

The flu season is just about ending, in the Northern hemishere daily sunshine is increasing and it kills the flu. So most likely there is never going to be a pandemic in the United States, the numbers as increasing from December- January do not support the panic in this thread.

Oh, you're not being any fun at all. Nothing livens up the bunker like a little touch of panic.

 

[Running_Man]

It is just a fact that flu season peaks in the United States typically in February and then rapidly tapers off as sunshine increases in March and April, ending the flu season until the following October. I watched with interest the last month but 14 cases will not morph into enough by the end of this month. Overall this should be a net positive for the S&P500 as China has reduced it's inventory of almost everything and will need to increase imports

 

[GravitySucks]

18% mortality rate?
With no evidence at all to back me up I'm highly doubtful of that number.
If I'm wrong real estate should get real cheap real quick.

 

[Brat]

We don't really know the lethality of this virus because the denominator (all of those infected) is unknown. We do know it is highly infectious and there is no human immunity.

 

[Brat]

.... In a large scale human epidemic the same concept is used. But, instead of killing off all infected humans you isolate them and wait out the incubation and/or recovery times. This is the hase we are in now an it appears that it is working at least in China. Time will tell.

Culling may be what is happening in N. Korea.

 

[audreyh1]

It is just a fact that flu season peaks in the United States typically in February and then rapidly tapers off as sunshine increases in March and April, ending the flu season until the following October. I watched with interest the last month but 14 cases will not morph into enough by the end of this month. Overall this should be a net positive for the S&P500 as China has reduced it's inventory of almost everything and will need to increase imports

Of those 14 cases, only two were locally transmitted, AFAIK. The rest are travelers from affected areas.

 

[brewer12345]

Of those 14 cases, only two were locally transmitted, AFAIK. The rest are travelers from affected areas.

If you only test travellers and their close contacts, it should be no surprise those are the only positives.

 

[candrew]

Of those 14 cases, only two were locally transmitted, AFAIK. The rest are travelers from affected areas.

From what I heard on NPR just about an hour ago, the two locally transmitted cases are the spouses of those who were already infected.

 

[audreyh1]

From what I heard on NPR just about an hour ago, the two locally transmitted cases are the spouses of those who were already infected.

Yes. Cohabiting.

 

[Nemo2]

Hereabouts, without specific mention of Covid-19, we're getting inundated* with generic 'Public Service' "Wash Your Hands" radio ads...(*inundated, to me, is hearing them more than three times...especially when I'm paying for them)......

Do people, old enough to listen to the radio, actually have to be told to wash their hands, or is it just some finger wagging doofus at the Health Department?

 

[gwraigty]

15th Case of Coronavirus in U.S. Confirmed in Texas Patient

The patient was a part of a group of people who were under a federal quarantine order at the JBSA-Lackland base near San Antonio because of a recent trip to Hubei Province, China. The group arrived stateside on Feb. 7.

 

[Sunset]

Hereabouts, without specific mention of Covid-19, we're getting inundated* with generic 'Public Service' "Wash Your Hands" radio ads...(*inundated, to me, is hearing them more than three times...especially when I'm paying for them)......

Do people, old enough to listen to the radio, actually have to be told to wash their hands, or is it just some finger wagging doofus at the Health Department?

When traveling, I often see men in the washroom, exit WITHOUT washing their hands . Most do wash their hands, just so you know.
However, I've not see any common factor that would allow me to predict who doesn't wash, rich/poor , McD's or upscale restaurant, makes no difference.

 

[Just_Steve]

When traveling, I often see men in the washroom, exit WITHOUT washing their hands . Most do wash their hands, just so you know.
However, I've not see any common factor that would allow me to predict who doesn't wash, rich/poor , McD's or upscale restaurant, makes no difference.

 

[NW-Bound]

Do people, old enough to listen to the radio, actually have to be told to wash their hands, or is it just some finger wagging doofus at the Health Department?

Yes. People have to be reminded.

Even before the current event, during the flu season when we go out in public, I often have to remind my wife not to rub her eyes. It's very easy for people to forget.

When traveling, I often see men in the washroom, exit WITHOUT washing their hands . Most do wash their hands, just so you know.
However, I've not see any common factor that would allow me to predict who doesn't wash, rich/poor , McD's or upscale restaurant, makes no difference.

+1000

 

[Masquernom]

Reminds me of an old joke;

First guy: At my college, we learned to wash our hands when leaving the rest room.

Second guy: Well, at my college we learned to not piss on our hands!

 

[Nemo2]

First guy: At my college, we learned to wash our hands when leaving the rest room.

Just had a chuckle recalling showing one of the young granddaughters how to wash her hands with bar soap, (they have liquid soap at home) - she was having so much fun 'lathering up' she'd likely have been at the sink all afternoon.

 

[JoeWras]

I want to respect Gary Larson's wishes about posting his cartoons. So, I'll describe it.

We are viewing the outside of a public restroom to a restaurant. A man is walking out from the room. Above the door is a HUGE sign saying "Didn't Wash Hands!" and it is light up and blinking, with an alarm bell too! The man has a surprised and embarrassed look on his face. There's a caption, but you don't need it. Funny as is.

One of Larson's best.

 

[braumeister]

I want to respect Gary Larson's wishes about posting his cartoons. So, I'll describe it.

We are viewing the outside of a public restroom to a restaurant. A man is walking out from the room. Above the door is a HUGE sign saying "Didn't Wash Hands!" and it is light up and blinking, with an alarm bell too! The man has a surprised and embarrassed look on his face. There's a caption, but you don't need it. Funny as is.

One of Larson's best.

Good one.
The one that has always stuck with me was in some magazine (I think it must have been the New Yorker) many years ago.

The inside of a restroom. Just next to the door is an enormous (eight feet tall) burly German guy (wearing lederhosen, etc.) holding a towel and wearing a nametag that reads "Hans".

The sign on the wall says "Hans must wash employees before leaving".

 

[JoeWras]

Good one.
The one that has always stuck with me was in some magazine (I think it must have been the New Yorker) many years ago.

The inside of a restroom. Just next to the door is an enormous (eight feet tall) burly German guy (wearing lederhosen, etc.) holding a towel and wearing a nametag that reads "Hans".

The sign on the wall says "Hans must wash employees before leaving".

Ja, das ist gut too!

 

[JoeWras]

One more about hand washing. You gotta actually wash the hands!

Probably worse than the guys skipping the process are those that give their index finger a slight mist of 1/10th of a second under the faucet.

The act of touching the faucet and then not doing any washing probably deposited more fecal matter onto their hands (from the faucet handle) than they started with.

...

So, yeah, in some cases where everything except the hand sink faucets is automatic and I don't even have to touch the door, I may skip the process. I'm not a fan of touching those sink handles unless I can do a proper wash.

 

[audreyh1]

15th Case of Coronavirus in U.S. Confirmed in Texas Patient

Woops, darn it! Of course that’s exactly why people coming into US from China have been placed under quarantine upon arrival.