Covid Vaccine Distribution

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[harllee]

I heard that sending people out to do injections at nursing homes was going slow.

That's to be expected.

OTOH, they're injecting front line health care workers so the logistics for them are simpler, as the vaccines are delivered directly to where may of them work, so presumably they're just going to a different part of the facility.

They're not for instance having to drive there, find parking, find where they're giving the vaccinations, fill out paperwork, etc.

So nursing home residents, it's going much slower but health care workers, it's going much faster than it would for average person who has to go to the places where vaccinations are taking place.

At the Continuing Care Retirement Community where my mother lives CVS is coming to give the Moderna vaccine to residents and staff on 12/30. The tricky thing now is to get permissions for all the residents to get the vaccine. Competent residents give their own permission but for those that are not competent they are having to get permission by fax or email from health care agents and I understand this is a problem in some cases--having trouble getting up with everyone. The CCRC is requiring all residents to have the vaccine--not sure what happens if a resident refuses or they cannot get the needed permission. My mother is in Independent Living so she does not qualify to get the vaccine yet.

 

[gerntz]

Feeling a bit depressed at only 1 million vaccinations being given thus far. At that rate, it'll be years before my turn in the queue arrives.

I'm quite happy that 1M shots have been given already in 2020 when 9 months ago were we being told the first ones wouldn't be before summer, 2021 at the earliest. What great strides have been made!

 

[gerntz]

My wife and I both work in healthcare, and got the vaccine today. Got a little choked up when we got the call that we could get it, it is a big relief to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[gerntz]

That number (the CDC tracker) is already three days old, and based on more detailed trackers linked upthread, is probably missing a whole lot of data. CDC's tracking in general lags badly. So it is likely that a lot more than 1M doses have been administered.

I too wish it would go faster, but just having a vaccine (two vaccines) before the end of 2020 is amazing.

+1

 

[MuirWannabe]

Feeling a bit depressed at only 1 million vaccinations being given thus far. At that rate, it'll be years before my turn in the queue arrives.

A watched pot never boils. (Thanks to moms for passing down these wisdoms)

 

[gerntz]

If I ran Pfizer I would want to get as many of my doses out ASAP. Once a one shot and done vaccine hits, assuming it's equally good, why go for the two dose version?

Because the efficacy is better? I mean if a two-shot one is 95% effective & the one-shot one is 80%, which do you want to take? I'll take the two shotter.

 

[timo2]

Every person vaccinated is one less host, right? So it's all good, probably. Distribution seems so convoluted because every State has its own priority list. It's a mess, IMO, until more supplies show up. It's just that not every recipient has the same public health value. Some people have contact with more people than others, and some people are more likely to fill up the hospitals than others. Sort of a conundrum, actually. DW is mad at the big shots cutting in line, but those people could be the biggest superspreaders. Who knows?

 

[Ronstar]

Every person vaccinated is one less host, right?

Maybe not. Some experts believe that the vaccine does not prevent a person from being infected or from infecting others.

 

[Amethyst]

Should be possible to figure that out eventually. Right now, keep on with masks, social distancing etc. Even after your shot.

Every person vaccinated is one less host, right? So it's all good, probably. Distribution seems so convoluted because every State has its own priority list. It's a mess, IMO, until more supplies show up. It's just that not every recipient has the same public health value. Some people have contact with more people than others, and some people are more likely to fill up the hospitals than others. Sort of a conundrum, actually. DW is mad at the big shots cutting in line, but those people could be the biggest superspreaders. Who knows?

Maybe not. Some experts believe that the vaccine does not prevent a person from being infected or from infecting others.

 

[Aerides]

Maybe not. Some experts believe that the vaccine does not prevent a person from being infected or from infecting others.

Correct, the current vaccines do not make the claim that a vaccinated person definitely can't transmit the virus. It might seem intuitive that they can't, but the documented science doesn't say that...yet.

 

[Hopeful]

CDC website is showing close to 2 million doses given as of 9 am this morning. It is easy to get discouraged, but this is a HUGE undertaking. I truly believe there is light at the end of the tunnel. It won’t be back to normal overnight, but every little bit will help.

 

[Freedom56]

My brother is scheduled to get the Pfizer vaccine on Tuesday. He is a doctor. He currently gets tested once per week with the PCR test. That won't change after the vaccine. I'll see how well he tolerates both doses. We won't get the vaccine until much later in 2021 per what our doctors have told us. Given that only 1 million were inoculated during the first week, I hope the pace picks up or else we'll be waiting a lot longer. There are already reports of providers offering the vaccines to those who are willing to pay to jump the line.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coron...id=clicksource_4380645_4_three_posts_card_hed

 

[Chuckanut]

Because the efficacy is better? I mean if a two-shot one is 95% effective & the one-shot one is 80%, which do you want to take? I'll take the two shotter.

Good point. All things may not be equal.

 

[Sunset]

I met a relative today that works in a rehab center/hospital and she had her shot
Also heard of another relative in a nursing home that has covid

 

[MrsHaloFIRE]

2 family members (married couple, both RNs) are declining the vaccine. The husband works in the covid ward. They are done having children but he says he "doesn't want 3 headed children." She's declining bc she is still breastfeeding their youngest.

 

[harllee]

2 family members (married couple, both RNs) are declining the vaccine. The husband works in the covid ward. They are done having children but he says he "doesn't want 3 headed children." She's declining bc she is still breastfeeding their youngest.

I can understand a woman breastfeeding declining the vaccine since the vaccine was not tested on women who are breastfeeding. But I just don't understand why the husband would not get the vaccine. Isn't he at risk of catching the virus and bringing it home to his wife and baby?

 

[gerntz]

Every person vaccinated is one less host, right? So it's all good, probably. Distribution seems so convoluted because every State has its own priority list. It's a mess, IMO, until more supplies show up.

- So it would be better to you if the Fed Gov controlled distribution & priorities using its most common one size fits all approach to issues? Me, I'll take convoluted where each locale can tailor its response to local conditions. That makes way more sense to me.
- Having 10M+ doses distributed already and 2M+ doses administered is way less of a mess than zero doses distributed imo. What would represent not a mess to you? Thanks.

 

[gerntz]

100,000,000 new doses from Phizer. That should help.

Let's get going on vaccinations, and hold our elected leaders feet to the fire on getting the vaccinations done properly and efficiently. I (We?) cut them a lot of slack in the first few months of this pandemic. They should have their act together by now. I'm tired of excuses and finger pointing.

I haven't heard excuses (ex the general who admitted he communicated the wrong higher number of doses available - which didn't change reality one bit, just perceptions.) or finger-pointing on vaccine distribution & shots. Please enlighten me on what you've heard. Thanks.

 

[gerntz]

2 family members (married couple, both RNs) are declining the vaccine. The husband works in the covid ward. They are done having children but he says he "doesn't want 3 headed children." She's declining bc she is still breastfeeding their youngest.

I certainly appreciate the mom's position. And that's the only one.

 

[gerntz]

I can understand a woman breastfeeding declining the vaccine since the vaccine was not tested on women who are breastfeeding. But I just don't understand why the husband would not get the vaccine. Isn't he at risk of catching the virus and bringing it home to his wife and baby?

Stop making sense. It's not valued when emotions are more important.

 

[sengsational]

I can understand a woman breastfeeding declining the vaccine since the vaccine was not tested on women who are breastfeeding. But I just don't understand why the husband would not get the vaccine. Isn't he at risk of catching the virus and bringing it home to his wife and baby?

I can see the "domestic tranquility" angle...the safety protocols can more easily uniform since everyone is in the same boat. The plan probably doesn't minimize risk, but one never knows when human behavioral effects are thrown in.

 

[gerntz]

Read today that Kroger is hiring 1000 injectors for the vaccine doses.

Maybe someone should invent a device where they can put 100 or so arms in vices alongside each other & then drop 100 needles down into the arms & inject. That should speed up production & thus immunity.

 

[MuirWannabe]

2 family members (married couple, both RNs) are declining the vaccine. The husband works in the covid ward. They are done having children but he says he "doesn't want 3 headed children." She's declining bc she is still breastfeeding their youngest.

My DD is a nurse who is currently breastfeeding. She is scheduled to receive the vaccine next week and plans to take it.

 

[gerntz]

]New Mexico just came out with a website to get on the vaccine list. I don't know if it's just a feel-good thing for the populace, but here is what it says:

Thank you for pre-registering for the COVID-19 Vaccine.
Over the next few months, New Mexico will receive limited supplies of COVID-19 vaccine. The entire Phase 1 (1a, 1b, 1c) of vaccine distribution in the United States will be reserved for specific populations while supplies are limited. During Phase 1a, New Mexico and most other states are vaccinating health care workers and residents and staff of nursing homes and other long-term care facilities. We will also be vaccinating other workers who provide direct, in-person services to patients, persons with disabilities, and persons living in congregate care settings who are at risk of exposure to the virus or who handle infectious materials. Tribal communities are also beginning to receive vaccine in Phase 1a and establishing their own allocation priorities. We do not expect to have enough supply to move beyond Phase 1a until early 2021.

New Mexico will finalize plans for the remainder of Phase 1 after reviewing final recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and considering the amount and pace of distribution of Pfizer and Moderna vaccine to New Mexico. Two major groups will be prioritized in future distributions:

• Essential workers identified by the National Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
• People most vulnerable to significant disease and death from COVID-19, including seniors, people with medical conditions that make them more susceptible to serious illness and death from COVID-19, and vulnerable communities that have been hit hardest by the disease

It will be several months before we have enough vaccine to vaccinate all New Mexicans in these categories.

For more information please visit https://cv.nmhealth.org/covid-vaccine/ .

You will be contacted as soon as you become eligible to receive a COVID-19 vaccine.

Good deal, New Mexico. Sounds very organized, non-convoluted, and well-communicated to me.