When do you feel comfortable declaring you've hit your number?

Was very comfortable last Spring when I calc’d my monthly pension after taxes would exceed what I was taking home as an employee.

With zero long-term debt, medical covered, all three kids through university and now independent, and a few dollars in other investments, wife figured I was good to go into retirement.
 
For what it’s worth (FWIW), I think we use too many TLAs (three letter acronyms) on this forum. Is it really that hard to type the words out?
 
We did not have a number. When we decided it was time, we reviewed the numbers, the pensions, out plans, and then pulled the plug. It was that easy.

We had been keeping track of what we believed we needed to retire in terms of cash flow and investments. No big number at the bottom though.
 
I felt I had reached my number when I had 25x my annual living expenses at the age of 53. I worked for 2 more years after that full-time. I was having health issues and tried to push myself as long as I could because I knew I could not continue for too much longer. I knew once I stopped, I had no intention of having to go back to work. At the age of 54, I cut my hours back to 32 from 40. At 55, I cut back to part-time, 20 hours. By that time, I think I had about 30x annual expenses. I fully retired after 2 years of part -time at age of 56 in 2020 because of my health. By that time, I had 42x annual expenses. I currently have 55x+ my annual expenses. Luckily, everything worked out for me just in time. Even if there is another huge bear market, my draw down is so low, that I'll "bearly", lol--barely be affected. The hardest adjustment to retiring for me was the mental aspect of letting go of a paycheck.
 
The math is straightforward, when you've hit your number, even if it is at an all time market high, that's what your safe withdrawal rate is supposed to handle. But I think most people end up feeling worried about exactly that. I'd certainly feel better if I hit my number in the middle of a market crash. :)
 
With pensions, SS, investments, and savings considered, our decision was driven by DW purchase (15 years ago) of her favorite planning books for her teaching job. Since they do not make these books anymore, she stated when the last one is used, we retire.

And so, we did. There was no magic number we were aiming for. :cool:
 
With pensions, SS, investments, and savings considered, our decision was driven by DW purchase (15 years ago) of her favorite planning books for her teaching job. Since they do not make these books anymore, she stated when the last one is used, we retire.

And so, we did. There was no magic number we were aiming for.
 
With pensions, SS, investments, and savings considered, our decision was driven by DW purchase (15 years ago) of her favorite planning books for her teaching job. Since they do not make these books anymore, she stated when the last one is used, we retire.

And so, we did. There was no magic number we were aiming for.
 
I hadnt planned far ahead to retire at 51. For 4 months I was fed up with my job(the poeple,not the work) so I did a bit of research and knew I could safely retire, so I went ahead and retired(I'm happier everyday). I just ran the numbers right now, I had 38x my yearly spending at that time, which was April 2017. I've actually spent less in retirement than before although I have always lived very frugally. That makes me the happiest(being frugal). I'm 99% in stocks. My yearly spending has been 2.3% of my net worth at retirement. My net worth is up 66% since I retired 46 months ago. So my yearly spending is 1.275% of my current net worth. If the stock market goes down 67% and stays there, my yearly spending would be 3.825% of that new amount(but still under 2.3% of my net worth at retirement).

I dont have a pension. I plan on taking SS at age 70.

I'm not nearly as rich as most people on here.
 
Our number was what we had on the day we retired.

It was actually a confluence of several factors that determined our retirement date. First, I had to wait until I was eligible for retiree health care for the two of us. Then, the young wife waited to hit 30 years of teaching, which substantially mitigated the early retirement penalty for her.

Financially, I had a number in mind for both income and portfolio value. Specifically, I wanted to have our two pensions cover our ordinary living expenses, which together with SS starting at 62, would also cover our expected travel expenses. Additionally, I wanted to have sufficient portfolio to cover the same thing at a 4% withdrawal rate (i.e. -- portfolio 25X the sum of pension plus SS), just in case something went awry with those sources of income. We hit both numbers almost right on the money as of the date of our retirement, although we would have gone anyway, even if the portfolio was a little light.

So we were independently SIRE and FIRE at the same time, with no change in our standard of living required. We did supplement our travel budget from our portfolio for the first year of retirement (7/19 through 6/20), but we haven't traveled due to COVID since last January. And since I start SS next month we won't have to do that going forward. Unless we want super luxury travel, we won't have to draw on our portfolio at all.
 
"When do you feel comfortable declaring you've hit your number"?

I also never had a number, I thought everyone worked till they fell over, really!

So, when my wife explained to me one day, that I should retire, I started looking for info to how, when, where and why. After running a million different financial calculators and finding ER I was convinced I could stop.

I always had a plan for what I would like, when that day came thou. My plan was to have enough in CD's/MM/savings accounts etc. to live on that and SS alone. My goal was not to have to depend on my investment portfolio. So, in my estimation it was going to be bullet proof plan. Lol Not sure that will be the case but we have a huge cushion for down times for long periods.

No final number for us when we exist that daily grind.
 
I also never had a number. I had a date. Plan was to survive past that date on the amount of $ I had on that date.
 
Once the mortgage was paid off, there were 2 new cars in the driveway that were paid for, I was a year from Medicare, we had Tricare for Life, my wife was retired, there were no loans, and we had enough in non-equity investments to carry us through with our annual budget. It helped that i enjoyed how I was earning a living so no pressure to retire there otherwise it would have been earlier.



Cheers!
 
I have found that having a very tight handle on our future expenses and a robust budgeting model contributed most to my confidence to retire early. We had been living according to detailed annual budgets for 26 years of accumulation and investing. We knew the numbers inside and out.

Having served on a condo board during that time I also learned all about the need for a separate capital expense fund. When I was sure that our assets were able to meet our forecasted expenses with room to spare, then I was comfortable with the numbers.

What we didn't count on was moving permanently outside the US and dealing with foreign exchange risk for income on assets that are valued in US dollars. That one was new and for the last 11 years has made me an alert student of its art and science.

-BB
 
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For those of us over 30, what does OMY stand for?

"Oh My?"

"On My Year?"

"On My Yacht?"

:LOL:

On a serious note, the way I decide my own OMY (One More Year) is not emotional but analytical. I do several runs of firecalc by changing the retirement year every time. I add OMY to the year I see where the success rate crosses from <100% success rate to 100%. Otherwise OMY can be open ended which may be OP's dilemma.
 
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When we hit 200%, I called it quits. That’s 2X the 100% $ amount based on several calculators including FIRECALC. DW kept working for another 8 years to my surprise...
 
I think many of us like myself never feel "comfortable" with a final number. I've extended my number so many times for no real reason that I've lost track. I think for the most part it's because I've been a saver for so many years, it's hard to all of a sudden stop and spend it.

I have more than enough money to last me the rest of my life but I still end up saving money every month for no real reason other than not wanting to waste it. Which in turn is probably why I have so much saved unfortunately.
 
Due to market fluctuations, you may hit your number one day, drop back below your number, and not come back up to your number for days, weeks or months.

At what point do you feel comfortable saying, "Yay, I/We made it!"?
We're humans, and our emotions make us overthink everything. The math & logic of financial independence has been rigorously tested over the last 25 years, but behavioral finance has proven that math & logic can be derailed with every recession.

When you reach assets of 25x annual spending, you're at the tripwire of the 4% Safe Withdrawal Rate. It's still valid if you dip down to 24.99x or even 24x.

You're at financial independence, and staying longer in the workplace is just padding the numbers. It's time to plan your transition, and you can execute it immediately.

People worry about the worst-case failures of the 4% SWR, but that's easily countered with longevity insurance. For most Americans who qualify, Social Security is all the annuity they'll ever need. SS is not counted as part of the 4% SWR computer simulations.

You'll see a potential failure of the 4% SWR coming from years away. You're not going to rigidly spend down your assets like a 4% SWR robot. You'll clamp down on your spending and use other variable-spending techniques to avoid failure long before it becomes a threat.

You might even earn an additional dollar or two during your FI. If you're approaching a failure situation then you only need $10K/year for a year or two in order to avoid it. Full-time jobs might be difficult to find during a recession, but part-time work is everywhere because most people pass it up to continue searching for full-time work.

The math is straightforward, when you've hit your number, even if it is at an all time market high, that's what your safe withdrawal rate is supposed to handle. But I think most people end up feeling worried about exactly that. I'd certainly feel better if I hit my number in the middle of a market crash. :)
Thanks, Retch, I was beginning to wonder whether people had forgotten how this works.

Dealing with this right now at 48 y/o. According to firecalc, I'm there, at a 94% to 97% success rate. Market keeps going up and down, then up again, which affects the pot of resources needed to provide 2/3 of my expected spending level. The other 1/3 comes from the military retirement.

Plan is to keep working while 2 things happen: refi the mortgage to lower the expected expenses, and build up a cash reserve to mitigate the need to sell equities in a down market. (I'm thinking that 2 years of cash, backed up with a HELOC, ought to be enough)
Two years of cash in CDs worked fine for us during the first 10 years of sequence-of-returns risk.
https://the-military-guide.com/how-should-i-invest-during-retirement/
 
I got upset about office politics two years ago and started playing with financial calculators to see if we could retire. Back then, our number seemed a little marginal as there were some historical cases that weren't great, we wanted to leave some to the kids and LTC can be a worry, so decided to stick with it.

But we cut some spending, the markets jumped up, we saved a lot and suddenly we find ourselves with savings of more than 40X expenses and that will get better once SS kicks in.

Since each day was getting harder to keep slogging it out at work, we finally pulled the plug, me last week, DW in two weeks. So I think we went from marginally OK to super conservative so fast we never noticed the switch.
 
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