Some Guy On Twitter is .... (snip)
No matter what follows that, you put your faith in that person. That's the good thing about doing original research, as I've been doing. No need to vet anyone who's motives are not clear.
I do take this personally because a good friend wouldn’t vaccinate because she read and believed all this stuff and knew that she would be fine with Ivermectin if she got Covid. Well she got Covid and ended up in hospital for a week on oxygen.
Your good friend, and lots of other people, apparently, seem not to have a firm grasp on the reality of the situation. Fighting the pandemic with more than one thing (vaccination and antivirals), concurrently, is probably going to be more effective than trusting just one thing to be the best approach.
I won’t derail the thread further by getting into an ivermectin argument. It’s of the same ilk and vax-antivax.
I'm certain I never said anything about not taking the vaccine. That's a straw man, marched out often, seemingly to inflame. From early on in the conversation, I wrote:
In the meantime, we have safe and effective (against Sars-CoV-2 replication) anti-virals that are being completely ignored. Why? Well, IMO, it's because it might cause some people to think it's a replacement for a vaccination. It's not a replacement. Both can be used in the interest of public health, but our system isn't putting public health first, unfortunately.
"Some guy"...there are simply too many of them.
Right. That's why I'm not going to try to vet any of these guys. Even if I find the guy's on the payroll of big pharma and so has an obvious conflict of interest, there's a 100 other guys lined-up behind him saying the same thing. A waste of time to investigate.
Here are the facts regarding dexamethasone for the treatment of Covid-19:
"Oxford researchers Martin Landray (left) and Peter Horby helped save an estimated 1 million lives worldwide in their study on an effective treatment for Covid-19."
Dr. Pierre Kory had nothing to do with it.
https://www.vox.com/22397833/dexamethasone-coronavirus-uk-recovery-trial
I would say you searched the internet, and found "A Fact", not "the facts". It's wonderful these guys did the study on dexamethasone. Certainly helpful for the public health to have a higher level of proof that dexamethasone improves survivability of the disease. But many doctors, Kory included, knew long before the study results were released, that steroids, administered at the right point in the disease progression, was improving survivability. And here's another likely point of contention: dexamethasone, although more thoroughly studied, isn't the best steroid. Methyl Prednisolon is more effective. A thoughtful person might wonder how these smart guys, Landry and Hornby decided to test dexamethasone in the first place. I suspect it was because doctors like Kory were trying things and observed things. Wow, a doctor that thinks and acts vs a doctor that doesn't know about the study, so does nothing while the study is peer reviewed and published waits for a recommendation, based on the study, from the NIH. I'll take the thinking doctor, thank you very much.
Foregoing vaccination in favor of something like ivermectin is akin to making a conscious decision to be flown from New York to Paris in a single-engine plane of unknown type/condition instead of in a modern, widely used, commercial jet.
Let's be absolutely clear here: Although I DO see people here hand-wringing about people substituting other treatments
instead of a vaccine, I don't see ANYONE here making that recommendation. Certainly not me. Using every effective tool in the toolbox seems the only logical approach, and vaccination is the best tool we have. Not the only tool, but the best. I don't discount the intelligence of the people of the world such that they can't understand that more than one tool can be applied in the fight against the virus.
The obvious first step is to get vaccinated. Circling back to where I started, we know that a few, not all that many, but a few vaccinated people will harbor and spread the virus. So limiting the time they're spreading, limiting the virus replication in their bodies will not only shorten the duration and severity for them, it will also protect others. So I will refer back to the early treatment protocol referenced earlier in this (the "Covid Treatment Protocol") thread:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-mask-plus-protocol/ This has changed since we've talked about it last (it's up to version 11).
Just so you don't need to download a PDF, if you're only mildly interested:
- Ivermectin (main stay)
- Fluvoxamine (added)
- Mouthwashes (added)
Still has vitamin D, zinc, the zinc ionaphor, etc, so that stuff hasn't changed. And of course vitamin C, as Paul Merik is involved