Wasteful people (rant)

[athena53]

Actually, except for the excessive outside lighting, none of it really affects you, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Well, on the whole, it does. It means more demands on our natural resources and more crap in the landfills. For those who waste a lot of food it means higher grocery bills. An insane amount of food is wasted in this country- left in the fields by automated harvesting methods, spoiled in transit, past dated at the store, thrown out by restaurants, rotting in peoples' refrigerators and pantries. How many people would this feed if more were recovered?

I'm "affluent" by raised by frugal people. I was tickled pink when I got a sprinkler system that taps into weather reports and doesn't sprinkle when enough rain has fallen or is predicted. My thermostat is programmable and I love the days when all I need to do is shut off the system and open the windows.

 

[Walt34]

Lordy! So "jail bait" really exists. I always thought it was a snicker-snicker term.

Oh no, in MD where I grew up that was the case too. If you were 18 or over, you'd better be on your best behavior with any young lady younger than that regardless of her opinions on the topic. And it didn't matter if she was to turn 18 the next week either.

 

[Amethyst]

You're correct. I'm just not convinced that OP should continue pondering a neighbor's food waste, which he can't influence, versus doing his part by controlling food waste in his home.

Incidentally, I tried one of those subscriptions for "slightly imperfect" foods. Misfits Market. A serious proportion of the produce was rotted when it arrived, or just on the edge. Food recovery is really hard.

An insane amount of food is wasted in this country- left in the fields by automated harvesting methods, spoiled in transit, past dated at the store, thrown out by restaurants, rotting in peoples' refrigerators and pantries. How many people would this feed if more were recovered?

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[ivinsfan]

You're correct. I'm just not convinced that OP should continue pondering a neighbor's food waste, which he can't influence, versus doing his part by controlling food waste in his home.

Incidentally, I tried one of those subscriptions for "slightly imperfect" foods. Misfits Market. A serious proportion of the produce was rotted when it arrived, or just on the edge. Food recovery is really hard.

Did you get your money back?

 

[Amethyst]

I guess the same would be true of a young man under 18 and a woman over 18.

And yet I have read that a fairly high proportion of young people are sexually active by age 16 or earlier. Since it's a crime, I wonder how they get these statistics?

Oh no, in MD where I grew up that was the case too. If you were 18 or over, you'd better be on your best behavior with any young lady younger than that regardless of her opinions on the topic. And it didn't matter if she was to turn 18 the next week either.

 

[Calico]

Wow.

This thread reminds me how glad I am to live around folks who have adopted the attitude "live and let live."

I pay zero attention to what my neighbors do, and I assume they give me the same consideration.

I have been in this house for 22+ years, and have never had any neighbor "issues" whatsoever.

 

[MichaelB]

In fewer than 60 posts the discussion has gone from a neighbor’s wasteful ways to sex offenders and dog poop. Talk about thread drift.

Wonder where it’s headed next ...

 

[Amethyst]

I did indeed.

If it had been something small, e.g. one soft tomato, I would have let it go. But it was considerably worse than that. And the box had gel packs in it, and I pulled it in the house the minute I heard it hit the front porch.

Did you get your money back?

 

[ivinsfan]

I guess the same would be true of a young man under 18 and a woman over 18.

And yet I have read that a fairly high proportion of young people are sexually active by age 16 or earlier. Since it's a crime, I wonder how they get these statistics?

Talk about thread drift, sometimes posters get annoyed that their threads get drifted, this is how it happens... it's just inevitable..

 

[Amethyst]

And this surprises you? People have their priorities, after all!

In fewer than 60 posts the discussion has gone from a neighbor’s wasteful ways to sex offenders and dog poop. Talk about thread drift.

Wonder where it’s headed next ...

 

[ivinsfan]

In fewer than 60 posts the discussion has gone from a neighbor’s wasteful ways to sex offenders and dog poop. Talk about thread drift.

Wonder where it’s headed next ...

It is funny when new members get annoyed about thread drift.. it's just like the tide going in and out..unstoppable..

 

[sergio]

You're correct. I'm just not convinced that OP should continue pondering a neighbor's food waste, which he can't influence, versus doing his part by controlling food waste in his home.

Incidentally, I tried one of those subscriptions for "slightly imperfect" foods. Misfits Market. A serious proportion of the produce was rotted when it arrived, or just on the edge. Food recovery is really hard.

It's not even known whether it's food waste...

 

[REWahoo]

It is funny when new members get annoyed about thread drift.. it's just like the tide going in and out..unstoppable..

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

From The History of Early-Retirement.org:

While many forums have specific rules prohibiting any attempt to vary from the initial subject, no such rule exists at E-R.org. “Threadjacking” is a high art form on the board with the underlying concept that if the subject bears discussing, thread participants will eventually steer it back on course. This free-wheeling, often irreverent approach, combined with the irrepressible sense of humor displayed by many posters, does occasionally irritate new members – until they understand this is merely part of the entertainment package provided by the forum – free of charge!

 

[MichaelB]

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

From The History of Early-Retirement.org:

Thanks, REWahoo. I’m pleased to see we’re still meeting the high standards set by our forum founders and ER pioneers.

 

[ShokWaveRider]

Everything you cited, describes every upscale neighborhood I have known. I am with your DW on this.

How do you classify an "Upscale Neighborhood", home prices, Home Sizes, Folks that live there, cars folks drive, etc.?

Just curious, how you measure it, I would assume home prices, if so how much do they have to be to be considered upscale?

A tip in SFO or south Orange County Ca. is upwards of $1-1.5m. A 4,000 - 5,000sqft. home in our neighborhood is about $1.8m or a little more as they rarely go up for sale, there is nothing below 2,500sqft.

Just curious.

 

[Dtail]

Wow, I have a newfound appreciation for our neighbors.

 

[ShokWaveRider]

Wow, I have a newfound appreciation for our neighbors.

Us too. Most of ours are retired professionals, they keep their places tidy, The HOA makes sure they do not paint their homes florescent purple. Most have a lawn & Tree service as do we. A few work, 2 Dentists that I know of still work, one of which is ours.

 

[Andre1969]

Maryland has a sex offender database, and it, at least gives a brief description of the offense. Looks like it's also one of those things that stays with you for life.

I know of one person, a former friend of a former acquaintance, who's on it. The offense reads as "ART.27 35C - CAUSING ABUSE TO A CHILD - ART. 27 35C" and the conviction date is from 2001. I wonder if they make people on this list send a new face picture every so often? This guy is 40 years old now, and the pic looks like someone who's close to 40, rather than a 20 year old.

They also have listings for "Tier 1", "Tier 2", "Tier 3" where the higher the number, the worse the offense. This guy above was put in "Tier 3" so apparently it was pretty serious.

And, wow...sometimes ignorance IS bliss. I searched the database, both for my current town, and my former, to see what came up. In my former town...someone I went to middle school with, back in '82-84! He's a Tier 3, as well.

 

[Letj]

As Amethyst correctly notes many jurisdictions have a rather liberal definition of what constitutes a "sex offense", things that might cause Miss Manners to frown, but wouldn't be worthy of note at all to many.

It can also be a 17 year old having sex with a 15 year old depending on the state. Seems like in this country we prosecute, put in jail and brand people for life for many innocuous rule breaking. It’s no wonder we have the highest prison population relative to size in the world or is it 2nd highest?

 

[aja8888]

55+ community living here....not much household trash but a lot of dog poop generated. Only a few cars here and there and mostly left in the garage since driving privileges for these old codgers are rare. Most people here are just waiting around to die.

Noise isn't a problem as no children are around and the ambulance is required to turn off the siren when entering the complex. Lights out at dusk, just like in basic training.

edit: no sex stuff going on that would cause a legal issue.

 

[Amethyst]

Shorthand for larger, nicer, better-kept homes and lots than are prevalent in the area. Prices well above the median.

Nothing more specific than that.

Next-door neighbors in Florida, whose home and lot are larger and more costly than ours, exactly match the "rant" description, as did our neighbors in Maryland.

As long as they do not make a whole lot of noise, damage our property, or create pollution, we try to ignore any goings-on.

How do you classify an "Upscale Neighborhood", home prices, Home Sizes, Folks that live there, cars folks drive, etc.?
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[ShokWaveRider]

Next-door neighbors in Florida, whose home and lot are larger and more costly than ours, exactly match the "rant" description, as did our neighbors in Maryland.

I guess we are fortunate, we have good neighbors all round. However, from a comment in the rant, I can name at least 10 folks in our development that have a "Toy" car they drive one in a blue moon, and spend the rest of the time cleaning and working on them. I was one up until august of this year. always in the garage though

A few have one more car than will fit in the garage that is left in the driveway. Not many though. The 3 & 4 car garage people seem more organized as the extra car is usually in a 2 car garage driveway. HOA does not allow cars left on the street overnight and only allow one car to be left in the driveway. So mostly all good. definitely no sofas or refrigerators allowed on the front lawns, and that is just fine with us.

 

[Chuckanut]

But I do use paper plates more than I should.

You are now on at least 47 lists of environmentally insensitive people. Do you burn the plates and send more CO2 into the atmosphere? At least wash them and hang them out to dry using a solar powered dryer (formerly called a clothes line). You may yet be redeemable. Just kidding, of course.


Seriously, unless one takes a look at the total lifestyle it's hard to judge others. I know a person who got roasted for driving a big SUV by a P***s driver. But, he takes the bus into work maybe 7 days a month,and work is a short drive from home. The P***s driver drives 30+ miles round trip every day.
So who has the big carbon footprint?

 

[Walt34]

How do you classify an "Upscale Neighborhood", home prices, Home Sizes, Folks that live there, cars folks drive, etc.?

Well, I live in West Virginia. If you have a paved driveway you're a Rich Man.

Actually, down in the middle and southern parts of the state there's good reason for the huge number of mobile homes (trailers) that can be moved on short notice. Much of the land is owned/controlled by out-of-state companies that own the mineral rights to huge swaths of land, so no one in their right mind would make the investment in a stick-built house if you can be ordered to vacate with little notice. This means of course that the home one lives in may or may not have anything at all to do with the occupant's wealth. That's true anywhere of course but especially so in WV.

 

[TriumphTR3fan]

Wow KGTEST, you seem to have struck a collective nerve with this subject! Over 60 responses in six hours.