Danmar
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Well put mouse. Ever notice how many of the posts here are disconnected. People talking about them selves mostly. I am certainly guilty of this, I think.
................Unfortunately, modern air travel has reduced the journey to the equivalent of sitting in a closet with a vacuum cleaner turned on for 10 hours.........
Unfortunately, modern air travel has reduced the journey to the equivalent of sitting in a closet with a vacuum cleaner turned on for 10 hours. Perhaps this has something to do with my dislike of travel.
Well your certainly right about people having a difficult time putting on their "hearing ears". Maybe there was never an art of conversation? Sometimes I'm embarrassed to recall a conversation and realize I should have asked the other person what they thought. I would have learned a lot more.I am going to have to disagree with you on this one. I don't think it's necessarily a lifestyle or ego thing to go somewhere that maybe considered more exotic. I actually think it comes down to the fact that people only really want to talk about themselves, they don't want to listen to other people. I fear the art of conversation is quickly dying as we all become more self-absorbed. ...(snip)...
I don't think that modern air travel was ever above that level, let alone reduced the journey. You could always ditch the civilian aircraft and stick to the military versions. Then it's like sitting in a metal dumpster that's being beaten by sledgehammers for 20 hours...Unfortunately, modern air travel has reduced the journey to the equivalent of sitting in a closet with a vacuum cleaner turned on for 10 hours.
Other than as a life metaphor, I'm not sure how far we'd have to regress our transportation mechanisms to get to the point where the journey was more important than the destination.
One of our family legends is one of my great-great-grandfathers who got off the boat in 1880s NYC and couldn't find work.Bicycles might do it
I am going to have to disagree with you on this one. I don't think it's necessarily a lifestyle or ego thing to go somewhere that maybe considered more exotic. I actually think it comes down to the fact that people only really want to talk about themselves, they don't want to listen to other people. I fear the art of conversation is quickly dying as we all become more self-absorbed.
I left small town Australia 25 years ago and have travelled the world far and wide. In all my numerous trips back home no-one has so much as expressed an interest in seeing a photo or hearing what I have done.
One of our family legends is one of my great-great-grandfathers who got off the boat in 1880s NYC and couldn't find work.
So he walked to Pittsburgh, but didn't like the work there either.
Then he walked to Cincinnati and decided that the work there was acceptable to his standards.
I think his lesson was that after a journey like that, any destination will do...
To me this is huge. Unless you have a specific reason to travel- to see particular architecture or certain pieces in museums, a lot of the reasons to travel about disappear when you are in a very attractive and stimulating place to begin with.The other plan might be to move closer to the coast and then stay at home more. I think that would still require travel to other places though too!!!!
lsbcal said:So I don't want anyone reading this to feel defensive about their travel plans. Travel can be fun even if it's exhausting. Wish we could go everywhere first class as that would probably be easier but I'm too frugal for that.
And today with so many motel chains on the web, you can make reservations online very easily.If you're doing a road trip and don't have to deal with reservations you can feel a bit freer with time -- no job to get back to.
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Think one thing that must be kept in mind is different strokes for different folks. NOthing wrong if you want to stay home 24/7 365 days of the year. Same as there is nothing wrong if you want to hit the road for the same period of time. Whether you do it el cheapo or first class as long as you are enjoying it and can afford it, it really doesn't matter.