Lucantes
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It has been my experience that discussions of religion rarely end well.
for either side!
But what about alien religions?
It has been my experience that discussions of religion rarely end well.
Interesting topic.
I wonder what the correlation is to believing in ETs verses believing in a deity.
Can anyone prove the existence of either...
Can anyone disprove the existence of either?
Alien inter galactic travel at a thousand times the speed of light?
A supreme being... Creator of the universe?
Is one more plausible than the other?
Well,have ever considered the possibility the powers that be have allready made contact with intelligent beings much more advanced than us and not told us?I have.
Anything could be possible because we do not know what is out there.
Why isn't there a kit you can buy your child to 'make your own amino acid chains and simple life forms' at home?
What a classic short story, and a great Twilight Zone episode!
The evidence is out there with those with an open mind.I am not saying I believe we have been visited by Alien intelligence,but I am open to the possibility we have.All you have to do is use google to see examples.It is up to each individual as to whether they are open to the information or not.Considering the vastness of Space it is certainly possible we have been visited and probraly have.If you don't want to believe it ,that is fine with me.Alien beings would not necessarily have to be either naughty or nice.They could be indifferent to us.I highly doubt we initiated contact, given that our signals were limited to radio broadcasts over the past 100 years, and given how weak those signals would be 100 light years out.
So the only way contact could already have been initiated would be if they visited us. And an alien race would either be hell-bent on dominating us, or be friendly. If the former, we would already know they are out there. If the later, I would assume they would already have made their presence known as well.
What evidence do you have that they already have visited/contacted us, other than a 'feeling'?
...as well as the possibility that we are, indeed, alone. If self-replicating life forms are so easy to create, then why aren't scientists making them in the lab? Why isn't there a kit you can buy your child to 'make your own amino acid chains and simple life forms' at home?
This planet does have many characteristics that we don't realize how beneficial and 'unique' they are - like the special role that water plays, in terms of its physical properties: it's less dense when a solid, so it takes a long time for bodies of water to freeze solid, and water is extremely aggressive and will dissolve many compounds (making it far easier for chemicals to distribute around). And if the earth were at different distances from the sun, things would have turned out much differently due to the impact on water. Then there's the beneficial effects of the moon with tides.
It's not an automatic given that there is a large amount of water in other solar systems even present at all, nor is it a given that the water would settle or be 'delivered' via comets to the planets that are at the right distance from the star, given the star's solar output, nor of the gases in the atmosphere to keep the planet in a temperate equilibrium.
And don't forget the huge benefit of the Earth's magnetic field (due to the molten iron core). This helps shield the planet from dangerous solar particles that would make the planet nearly inhospitable to land-based life as we know it. It's not a given that other planets would have similar magnetic shield protection from their star.
The evidence is out there with those with an open mind.I am not saying I believe we have been visited by Alien intelligence,but I am open to the possibility we have.All you have to do is use google to see examples.It is up to each individual as to whether they are open to the information or not.Considering the vastness of Space it is certainly possible we have been visited and probraly have.If you don't want to believe it ,that is fine with me.Alien beings would not necessarily have to be either naughty or nice.They could be indifferent to us.
I highly doubt we initiated contact, given that our signals were limited to radio broadcasts over the past 100 years, and given how weak those signals would be 100 light years out.
So the only way contact could already have been initiated would be if they visited us. And an alien race would either be hell-bent on dominating us, or be friendly. If the former, we would already know they are out there. If the later, I would assume they would already have made their presence known as well.
What evidence do you have that they already have visited/contacted us, other than a 'feeling'?
...as well as the possibility that we are, indeed, alone. If self-replicating life forms are so easy to create, then why aren't scientists making them in the lab? Why isn't there a kit you can buy your child to 'make your own amino acid chains and simple life forms' at home?
This planet does have many characteristics that we don't realize how beneficial and 'unique' they are - like the special role that water plays, in terms of its physical properties: it's less dense when a solid, so it takes a long time for bodies of water to freeze solid, and water is extremely aggressive and will dissolve many compounds (making it far easier for chemicals to distribute around). And if the earth were at different distances from the sun, things would have turned out much differently due to the impact on water. Then there's the beneficial effects of the moon with tides.
It's not an automatic given that there is a large amount of water in other solar systems even present at all, nor is it a given that the water would settle or be 'delivered' via comets to the planets that are at the right distance from the star, given the star's solar output, nor of the gases in the atmosphere to keep the planet in a temperate equilibrium.
And don't forget the huge benefit of the Earth's magnetic field (due to the molten iron core). This helps shield the planet from dangerous solar particles that would make the planet nearly inhospitable to land-based life as we know it. It's not a given that other planets would have similar magnetic shield protection from their star.
Are you looking with an open mind?None that I can see.
The evidence is out there with those with an open mind.I am not saying I believe we have been visited by Alien intelligence,but I am open to the possibility we have.All you have to do is use google to see examples.It is up to each individual as to whether they are open to the information or not.Considering the vastness of Space it is certainly possible we have been visited and probraly have.If you don't want to believe it ,that is fine with me.Alien beings would not necessarily have to be either naughty or nice.They could be indifferent to us.
Nothing in life that is worthwhile is without risks.“The problem with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and putting things in it.”
Are you looking with an open mind?
There's just been too many what I will call incidences happen over the years for there not to be something to it.There is the Betty and Barney Hill case of 1961.Then there is the Roswell case of 1947.Then there is the fascinating Bentwaters UFO in 1980.This happened on a base in England.Even those who are experienced pilots were baffled by what they saw.Then there is the Travis Walton case of 1975.There is the Weiner UFO abduction maybe 1976 or thereabouts.Then there is the Michelak case of 1967 in Canada where he saw a UFO and touched it and it left a physical mark on his stomach with radiation burns.All these cannot be hoaxes.We all want the smoking gun so to speak.If such evidence does exist and it likely does,it is in the hands by those who do not want to share it and are powerful enough to get away with it.I don't think it is a question of having an open mind or not.
This reminds me of History Channel's Ancient Aliens program. Anything they can't explain is attributed to aliens. E.g., human race at the time cannot possibly build a Pyramid that huge. Therefore, they have done it with alien technology and help.
Having an open mind is no different than having a closed mind. Someplace in the middle is discriminating judgement.
There's just been too many what I will call incidences happen over the years for there not to be something to it.There is the Betty and Barney Hill case of 1961.Then there is the Roswell case of 1947.Then there is the fascinating Bentwaters UFO in 1980.This happened on a base in England.Even those who are experienced pilots were baffled by what they saw.Then there is the Travis Walton case of 1975.There is the Weiner UFO abduction maybe 1976 or thereabouts.Then there is the Michelak case of 1967 in Canada where he saw a UFO and touched it and it left a physical mark on his stomach with radiation burns.All these cannot be hoaxes.We all want the smoking gun so to speak.If such evidence does exist and it likely does,it is in the hands by those who do not want to share it and are powerful enough to get away with it.
Maybe so.But they would not be able to do much beyond detection.
That is because your mind is allready made up.There is no way anyone can look at these cases and not wonder if it is true.Just because I don't have evidence doesn't mean it isn't true or didn't happen.I doubt you have studied all these cases.It's simple really.I am willing to consider the possibility that it could be true.You are not because the smoking gun evidence is lacking.I never said I had such evidence to begin with.I said it is out there for those with an open mind.If you wish to call all the eye witnesses and abductees of UFO's mistaken or simply crazy then that is your right.My right is to consider the possibility and I do.The vastness of space is so big it is almost as if it demands life to fulfill it's existance.None of what you said above makes it an evidence that intelligent alien race is visiting earth. None of them is even remotely convincing. U in UFO stands for unidentified, not "intelligent alien."
Then again, there are people believing US never went to moon, 911 is started by US gov't, etc.. They too have their share of "evidence." People believe what they want to believe.
Are you looking with an open mind?
That is because your mind is allready made up.There is no way anyone can look at these cases and not wonder if it is true.Just because I don't have evidence doesn't mean it isn't true or didn't happen.I doubt you have studied all these cases.It's simple really.I am willing to consider the possibility that it could be true.You are not because the smoking gun evidence is lacking.I never said I had such evidence to begin with.I said it is out there for those with an open mind.If you wish to call all the eye witnesses and abductees of UFO's mistaken or simply crazy then that is your right.My right is to consider the possibility and I do.The vastness of space is so big it is almost as if it demands life to fulfill it's existance.
. U in UFO stands for unidentified, not "intelligent alien."
Wrong.It has nothing to do with me wishing to impose my beliefs on you or anyone else.Having an open mind means open to all possibilities.Since I am not 100% sure I consider that it might be true.Whether you are open to all possibilities or not is of no concern to me.I have no proof therefore I am open minded.You seem to disagree with that.Do you have any proof that it is not true?I never said "we are definitely alone, and life cannot possibly exist outside of Earth." I merely pointed out that it's not purely a numbers game, and saying "with fifty gazillion infinitrillion planets, surely there are some that have life", because there are many, many variables that would not necessarily be present in most or even many of those planets, let alone those solar systems as well.
But, I remain open minded - to evidence. Sure, there's a chance there could be life elsewhere, but as far as intelligent life...I don't think it's always quite as easy to reach those conditions.
Your claims of open-mindedness sounds like certain people in this country who claim to be 'open-minded and accepting' in their political and moral beliefs....as long as the political or moral view is the same as theirs. If you disagree with them, you are branded as 'closed-minded' - even though their self-ascribed definition of "open-minded" requires them to accept ALL views, not just those that are similar to theirs.
Wrong.It has nothing to do with me wishing to impose my beliefs on you or anyone else.Having an open mind means open to all possibilities.Since I am not 100% sure I consider that it might be true.Whether you are open to all possibilities or not is of no concern to me.I have no proof therefore I am open minded.You seem to disagree with that.Do you have any proof that it is not true?