Home heating costs

[youbet]

You didn't invest any sweat equity into that heat source did ya T-Al?

 

[FIREd]

I pay $0.08 per kWh, everything included. It was $0.07/kWh last year and $0.065/kWh the year before.

 

[mathjak107]

i pay .20kwr in our new york home and .10 kwr in our pa. home

 

[W2R]

Al, you must be a real pioneer type chopping all that wood! That's a lot of hard work and I'm impressed.

 

[dumpster56]

I couldn't resist any more.

2007-2008 Heating

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2008-2009 Heating

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2009-2010 Heating

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All scrounged from storm-hit trees, free.

Wood works so well, keeps you physically fit and warm. FREE!

 

[HFWR]

As the old saying goes, "wood heats you twice".

 

[Walt34]

Last 12 months:
Electric $869.91
Natural Gas $1,878.10

Hot water, clothes dryer, stove, are gas and there is a gas fireplace which DW sometimes uses although I try to discourage that. She won't turn on the fan in it (too noisy she says) so most of the heat goes outside.

The bills don't say - at least on the parts here - what the rates are.

Glad we don't live in the New England states!

 

[TromboneAl]

It's true it take a lot of time to manage the wood. I can only split for two hours at a time, and there's a lot of work in moving it around (the current year's wood gets moved into the shelter, for example). But it's good exercise and a nice excuse to be outside. It wouldn't be feasible if I were still working.

We used about four cords this year. So far -- I'm sitting in front of a fire now.

 

[REWahoo]

Wood works so well, keeps you physically fit and warm. FREE!

Yeah? Well what about all the pollution it creates? Not to mention how dangerous fires are! Didn't your house burn down once already?

Some people never learn...

 

[brewer12345]

I stopped looking at the electric rates a while ago, but they are in the .15 to .20 per kwh range. I pay extra for a "green" power blend, since the more I learn about coal the less I want anything to do with burning it.

We have an early 90s vintage heating oil-fired furnace. There is nothing wrong with it and it will probably last another 20 years, but I believe the last efficiency test came out at 83% or so. How would we go about making some kind of rational decision as to whether to switch to natural gas heat?

 

[samclem]

I stopped looking at the electric rates a while ago, but they are in the .15 to .20 per kwh range. I pay extra for a "green" power blend, since the more I learn about coal the less I want anything to do with burning it.

We have an early 90s vintage heating oil-fired furnace. There is nothing wrong with it and it will probably last another 20 years, but I believe the last efficiency test came out at 83% or so. How would we go about making some kind of rational decision as to whether to switch to natural gas heat?

We had a similar situation: oil furnace (though our was on the way out) and available NG (our gas came right to the corner of the house, but the prev owner hadn't run the gas inside). So, our costs to convert were moderate, as I was faced with having to buy a furnace anyway. We decided to convert to NG, bought a high-efficiency furnace. It was a good decision.

Relevant article from the NYT:

YOUR HOME; Choosing Oil Heat or Natural Gas - New York Times

Here's a site with more information on converting. The bar on the right side of the site links to sites with calculators you can use to crunch the numbers.
EERE Consumer's Guide: Selecting Heating Fuel and System Types

 

[brewer12345]

Thanks, very helpful.

 

[Nords]

You didn't invest any sweat equity into that heat source did ya T-Al?

He's been hedging his equity costs...

 

[tryan]

We converted to NG ~5 years ago to free up the second chimney. Went with a Munchkin Boiler ... been very happy (no maintenance issues, highly efficient). The boiler vents at ground level via PVC (no heat waste). So the plan is to pull the gas insert from the fireplace and replace it with a wood stove.

Here's the link to the boiler:

Munchkin Boiler

 

[hankster]

We live in a rural area without natural gas service. Our primary heat source for the last 12 years has been a wood pellet burning stove. There is a lot of logging and lumber industry in this area. However, with the housing slump, there is less lumber production and consequently, less wood waste available. Pellet prices have risen accordingly to $200+ per ton. For us it remains the most economical heat source vs. electric or propane. The pellets burn very clean compared to most wood stoves and are exempt from air stagnation burning bans in this part of the country. The heat can be controlled much more precisely than a wood stove using a thermostat to vary the burn rate. Also very little creosote type build up which causes chimney fires. Most pellet stoves vent through the wall. Did I mention I like our pellet stove? (No, I don't sell them)

 

[copyright1997reloaded]

Did I mention I like our pellet stove? (No, I don't sell them)

Can you provide additional detail? How big a house, how muxh do you burn in a season, any recommendations on specific stoves? Thanks.