I hope I have the quotes attributed correctly, it's hard when posters do the colors versus quote boxes, as colors don't carry through on a "quote this post". I had to edit and may have made a mistake:
LOL! said: Suppose one want an asset allocation fo 60% stock and 40% bonds. Would any junk bond folks advocated a 40% holding in junk bonds to the exclusion of other bonds?
veremchuka said:
NO! .... 40% junk is not a "bond" allocation after all bonds are for stability in your portfolio. they are too risky and you should take risk in equities not fixed income. The portfolio would certainly not have the same risk characteristic of traditional 60:40 portfolio.
see comments above in red
You are correct, it would not have the same risk characteristic of traditional 60:40 portfolio. However, I think you are
way overreacting. It would essentially increase your volatility to that of an 80/20 EQ/Bond mix, but some might be OK with that. FIRECALC shows a pretty flat response to EQ/BOND ratios over a 30 year period, all the way from about 35% EQ to 100% EQ.
LOL! said: Does a portfolio of 60% stocks, 30% investment-grade bonds, and 10% junk bonds behave like a portfolio of 65% stocks and 35% investment-grade bonds?
veremchuka said:
no the vanguard hycbf according to larry swedroe should be treated as 25% equity and maybe as high as 50%
Isn't the statement from LOL! consistent with the high end of what Swedroe said? Why do you say 'no'? Let's use 50% EQ for junk (50% is what I use, and what charts and calculations seem to indicate):
Trad Bonds:
65% Stock
35% Bonds
Now, lets compare to:
60% Stock
30% Bonds
10% Junk
And let's follow Swedroe and split the Junk to 50/50 EQ/Bonds, cutting the bond allocation of the junk in half to 5%, creating a 5% stock portion, and assigning those 5% points to Stocks and Bonds.
65% Stock
35% Bonds
So, isn't that what
LOL! said? Why do you say 'no'?
-ERD50