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Well, he's got the other half so he could do the same thing!
No he couldn't as then the blog would fall due his being a traitor to the LWBYM (Live Way Below Your Means).
Well, he's got the other half so he could do the same thing!
Or...may be she found a new lover...as is most often the case
Another reason to leave the workplace lol
Or him - takes two to tango and gender doesn't necessarily engender fidelity to one's spouse.
True but most divorces are initiated by women and most have the replacements lined up well before doing so. Most men are blindsided, things can get pretty bad and most men will hang in there especially after years of being married to someone. In any case, if you read between the lines of his blog post you can sorta see he was dealt the card.
Or...may be she found a new lover...as is most often the case
That doesn't mean that either of them started before the end of their marriage... it's been many months, probably a year given all the gossip, since they separated.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned, I find all this idle speculation into someone else's personal life so unseemly.
Hey, he did give up the Leaf. No credit for that one?
So? Sure, lets assume his LBYM lifestyle contributed to his divorce. Does it matter? Or that they spent too much time together?
That's just noise. I'm sure there are a lot of reasons his relationship didn't work out, LBYM, being a blog celebrity, etc, may have been a factor. More likely is that his spouse and him were on a different page for lots of reasons and drifted apart. People change. It happens.
I didn't read anything between any lines that hinted at infidelity on either side.
Where are you getting these statistics about "most" women? Of myself and many friends whom I know divorced, a "replacement lined up" has never been the case. Not one. More focused on extricating ourselves and starting fresh, with the least impacts to children and worried about how they would finance their new lives...
No, it wouldn't if hadn't portrayed himself as the "father of the FIRE movement", with lots of 20 and 30s something attempting to follow in his footsteps. MMM, along with many of us have portrayed early retirement as great thing, a goal worth the numerous sacrifices associate with living well below your means.
But if one of the risks associated with early retirement, is would it increase my chance of divorcee, that's something I'd like to know if I was a 20 something, contemplating this lifestyle. Especially, if I was more enthusiastic than my significant other.
The discussion on this board and MMM doesn't seem to suggest that it makes a big difference.
I didn't read anything between any lines that hinted at infidelity on either side.
Where are you getting these statistics about "most" women? Of myself and many friends whom I know divorced, a "replacement lined up" has never been the case. Not one. More focused on extricating ourselves and starting fresh, with the least impacts to children and worried about how they would finance their new lives...
Alas, women cheat just as men do, and they can be just as cruel. After I was divorced I decided to help others going through this, mess and volunteered to help in divorce support groups (Which by the way are cheap and much better than counseling for many.) The stories of cruelty and in some cases just down right evil behavior were all to frequent. No gender has any claim to the moral high ground in the area of divorce and infidelity.
In these modern times those genetic tests like 23 and Me have started a new trend in support groups. It seems there are a number of adults who get tested to see what's in their ancestry and - Surprise! - find out that Dad is not their bio-father.
Are you aware that in France paternity tests can't be used to eliminate child support in married couples? Thats right, even if cupcake sleeps with someone else while married, and conceives, hubby gets to foot the bill. The law is in place because it was occurring so often.
Are you aware that in France paternity tests can't be used to eliminate child support in married couples? Thats right, even if cupcake sleeps with someone else while married, and conceives, hubby gets to foot the bill. The law is in place because it was occurring so often.
This could describe every situation a couple runs into every choice you make in a relationship changes it , FIRE, no kids, SAHM, etc,etc….
And people can change too in the course of a relationship. You used the term "numerous sacrifices" to describe LBYM. It's a lifestyle choice not a sacrifice..
MMM FIRED, started a blog about it, got wildly successful. He's good at stuff and pretty intelligent. It's nobodies business why he got divorced.
Reasonable people can disagree if MMM owed his readers an explanation of why he got divorced. I think we will just agree to disagree on this.
But I think you may have drunk too much of MMM kool-aid if you don't think LYBM is a sacrifice. It is pretty much the textbook example of delayed gratification. "subject resists the temptation of an immediate reward in preference for a later reward." You are sacrificing something today in hopes that money saved will make you happier in the future.
In some case, owning a bike and not a car, you could argue is an ecologically oriented lifestyle choice but in the vast majority of cases, it is just a sacrifice.
Three recent examples I've done. I'm flying economy rather than business or first class, I elected to wait for a movie to become available on Netflix or Amazon Prime rather than buy it on demand, and I decide to pick up Pizza rather than have it delivered, I'm not saving the planet with any of these choices, just saving money. I'm sure I'm not the only multimillionaire on the board, who does these things. In the last two cases, it doesn't even really make sense for me, because I've crossed the line from frugal to cheap. If had a partner who wanted to see the movie now or wanted the pizza delivered, it would idiotic for me argue about it. Even flying first class is certainly affordable for me.
This is the essence of my question for MMM, did LYBM become so ingrained in him that it affected his relationship
This is the essence of my question for MMM, did LYBM become so ingrained in him that it affected his relationship
I can see a lot of spouses going along with an extreme LBYM to reach a goal, but they now have reached FIRE but she's not able to enjoy some well earned luxury because it would have hurt his brand. That likely isn't the only reason they split, but it may have been a contributing factor....she doesn't like the idea of not going our for supper a few times a month, not owning a nice car, and not taking a nice vacation for the rest of her life.
Almost everyone here says that a 3% WD rate is safe...they're limiting themselves to less than 1%.
We're not too far behind from France...I lifted this from the 'net:
In California, the child of a married woman living with her husband at the date of conception, will legally be treated as the husband’s child unless one of the parents goes to court to claim otherwise within two years of the date of birth. Miss that 2-yr cutoff, and you are permanently daddy, even if the dna tests say otherwise.
Talk about legalized emasculation.